Coastal Fortresses

Brohz · Feb 13, 2004, 08:18 AM

Are they worth it?
I only built them when I was learning how to play, but they never were of any use. Anybody has really used them?

silver 2039 · Feb 13, 2004, 08:51 AM

Well I've only seen them useful once. When an AI ship was passing by my coast it got damaged by my costal fortress. There not very useful I just build them for lack of anything better to build.

SuperBeaverInc. · Feb 13, 2004, 09:09 AM

Coastal fortresses are as worthless as the manual. Don't even bother with them.

IglooDude · Feb 13, 2004, 10:21 AM

The only remotely worthwhile time to build them would be if the city is on a one-square-wide chokepoint and the AI needs to use that chokepoint a lot. However, because the fortress is the first thing to go in a naval bombardment, don't expect it to last very long if the AI is coming after that city.

joycem10 · Feb 13, 2004, 10:56 AM

i agree with all of the above, but just wanted to point out that they have no miantenance cost.

so if you have a fully develop city and dont need any more units, what the hell, buid one. dont cost nothing, except the shields to build it.

Blasphemous · Feb 13, 2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by joycem10
i agree with all of the above, but just wanted to point out that they have no miantenance cost.

so if you have a fully develop city and dont need any more units, what the hell, buid one. dont cost nothing, except the shields to build it.

I find that by that stage of the game, I'm better off producing wealth...

Nebukad · Feb 13, 2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by IglooDude
However, because the fortress is the first thing to go in a naval bombardment, don't expect it to last very long if the AI is coming after that city.

Yes, well atleast that is one bombardment not destroying something useful and therefore I sometimes build them in somewhat productive coastal cities that might theoretically get bombarded. I can't remember a single time when they'd have been of any real use, though.

phil87 · Feb 13, 2004, 12:36 PM

Are the AI's naval attacks improved in the conquest . They are pathetic in PTW

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silver 2039 · Feb 13, 2004, 12:38 PM

Somewhat better. Still not equvilant to what a human can do though.

hoplite505 · Feb 13, 2004, 01:01 PM

i rarely do naval attacks mavbe a battleship to bombard capital cities every turn it helps

Jaded_Feriluce · Feb 13, 2004, 10:02 PM

I've always built them... more or less cause I like to have everything you can possibly have in a city... wether you need it or not (keepin the sweet excess of Rome alive!) but for the first time ever a couple days ago I saw one of my coastal fortresses actually fire and hurt an enemy ship.. I was stunned (seeing as how I didnt think they ever did anything) but a lil damage is a lil damage in my book.. and I'll keep building them. If only for the sheer hell of it!

KaNick · Feb 13, 2004, 10:11 PM

I don't bother until I am actually being bombarded by the comp and since that had never happened, i've never built one.

Oddible · Feb 14, 2004, 01:22 PM

Costal Fortresses bombard?!? I thought that they were just a canon sponge. Seriously, I've been playing since this game came out and I've never seen one fire! They are so cheap though that I use them as a buffer to prevent other stuff from being destroyed.

silver 2039 · Feb 14, 2004, 01:44 PM

They bombard passing enemy ships. I've only seen it happen once though.

CaptainCommando · Feb 14, 2004, 03:45 PM

They're all but useless I think, i've seen them attacks maybe once or twice; all they really do is protect against that initial AI bombard attack.

Zier · Feb 16, 2004, 08:14 AM

Totally worthless imo.

a4phantom · Feb 16, 2004, 08:29 AM

I play on land maps, and I've never seen an enemy ship more powerful than an iron clad, but I usually build a coastal fortress in my cities near where border meets the coast or island cities just for deterrent. I've never seen them fire though, and since I give cannons and artillery lethal sea bombard they're not really necessary But as someone said, there's usually a point at which cities have nothing better to do and they're maintainance free.

troytheface · Feb 16, 2004, 11:29 AM

Best improvement in the game! Once one even fired at a ship and reduced it one hit point. It was worth the two hundred and seventy four i built. Of course i am also fond of Outposts and have one in the mountains now as i write.

sabo · Feb 16, 2004, 03:20 PM

I never build them, I'd rather use Arty with a good rail system. It seems to work much better.

kokoras · Feb 17, 2004, 03:26 AM

Indeed sabo.
I only build them if there is nothing more to build.

Feb 13, 2004, 08:18 AM	#1
Brohz Confused Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Valdivia Posts: 98	Coastal Fortresses Are they worth it? I only built them when I was learning how to play, but they never were of any use. Anybody has really used them? __________________ ...

Feb 13, 2004, 09:09 AM	#3
SuperBeaverInc. Live Slow, Die Whenever Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 14,598 Images: 6	Coastal fortresses are as worthless as the manual. Don't even bother with them. __________________ Six Seasons and a Movie

Feb 13, 2004, 10:21 AM	#4
IglooDude With carrotflavored stick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Igloo, New Hampshire Posts: 19,582	The only remotely worthwhile time to build them would be if the city is on a one-square-wide chokepoint and the AI needs to use that chokepoint a lot. However, because the fortress is the first thing to go in a naval bombardment, don't expect it to last very long if the AI is coming after that city. __________________ "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie - deliberate, contrived and dishonest - but the myth - persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic." - JFK Cure cancer, join Folding@Home's Team CivFanatics today! . . . . . . . .

Feb 13, 2004, 12:36 PM	#8
phil87 Chieftain Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England Posts: 81	Are the AI's naval attacks improved in the conquest . They are pathetic in PTW.

Feb 13, 2004, 10:02 PM	#11
Jaded_Feriluce Dark Lord of the Regents Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Muncie, IN. USA Posts: 185	I've always built them... more or less cause I like to have everything you can possibly have in a city... wether you need it or not (keepin the sweet excess of Rome alive!) but for the first time ever a couple days ago I saw one of my coastal fortresses actually fire and hurt an enemy ship.. I was stunned (seeing as how I didnt think they ever did anything) but a lil damage is a lil damage in my book.. and I'll keep building them. If only for the sheer hell of it! __________________ Since the crimes divine I left behind. I'd warred with every tribe that plied in holy vestment, but with time, bored sore of clawing what was mine. I laid my bones and made my throne, with a veiw to Paradise.

Feb 13, 2004, 08:51 AM	#2
silver 2039 Deity Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 16,209	Well I've only seen them useful once. When an AI ship was passing by my coast it got damaged by my costal fortress. There not very useful I just build them for lack of anything better to build.

Feb 13, 2004, 10:56 AM	#5
joycem10 Deity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 2,352	i agree with all of the above, but just wanted to point out that they have no miantenance cost. so if you have a fully develop city and dont need any more units, what the hell, buid one. dont cost nothing, except the shields to build it.

Feb 13, 2004, 12:38 PM	#9
silver 2039 Deity Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 16,209	Somewhat better. Still not equvilant to what a human can do though.

Feb 13, 2004, 01:01 PM	#10
hoplite505 Sid Conqueror Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 169	i rarely do naval attacks mavbe a battleship to bombard capital cities every turn it helps

Feb 13, 2004, 10:11 PM	#12
KaNick Deity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kapolei, HI Posts: 2,704	I don't bother until I am actually being bombarded by the comp and since that had never happened, i've never built one. __________________ gamertag: CaNick

Feb 14, 2004, 01:22 PM	#13
Oddible signal / noise > 1 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 838	Costal Fortresses bombard?!? I thought that they were just a canon sponge. Seriously, I've been playing since this game came out and I've never seen one fire! They are so cheap though that I use them as a buffer to prevent other stuff from being destroyed.

Feb 14, 2004, 01:44 PM	#14
silver 2039 Deity Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 16,209	They bombard passing enemy ships. I've only seen it happen once though.

Feb 14, 2004, 03:45 PM	#15
CaptainCommando Warlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 167	They're all but useless I think, i've seen them attacks maybe once or twice; all they really do is protect against that initial AI bombard attack.

Feb 16, 2004, 08:14 AM	#16
Zier got milk? Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 115	Totally worthless imo.

Feb 16, 2004, 08:29 AM	#17
a4phantom Perma-newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MN, USA Posts: 2,062	I play on land maps, and I've never seen an enemy ship more powerful than an iron clad, but I usually build a coastal fortress in my cities near where border meets the coast or island cities just for deterrent. I've never seen them fire though, and since I give cannons and artillery lethal sea bombard they're not really necessary But as someone said, there's usually a point at which cities have nothing better to do and they're maintainance free. __________________ The world is a fine place, and worth the fighting for. ~Hemingway

Feb 16, 2004, 11:29 AM	#18
troytheface Deity Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,262	Best improvement in the game! Once one even fired at a ship and reduced it one hit point. It was worth the two hundred and seventy four i built. Of course i am also fond of Outposts and have one in the mountains now as i write.

Feb 16, 2004, 03:20 PM	#19
sabo My Ancestors were Vikings Join Date: May 2002 Location: Minneapolis, City of Lakes Posts: 4,097 Images: 2	I never build them, I'd rather use Arty with a good rail system. It seems to work much better. __________________ Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.-- SW

Feb 17, 2004, 03:26 AM	#20
kokoras Bizarre Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Athens Posts: 419	Indeed sabo. I only build them if there is nothing more to build. __________________ Give Peace A Chance...Or Else...

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