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Old Mar 29, 2004, 04:56 AM   #1
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Are some units more likely to produce GLs?

Vanilla/PTW question--

Seems to me that Modern Armor produces more GLs than other units.

I am playing a Monarch-level huge world game and durimg my rceent wars with the Indians and US, I was producing a lot more GLs than usual,a nd almost all of them came from Mod. Armor.

Anyone else noticing anything similar?
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 05:00 AM   #2
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This isn't so, although it might seem that way. You get a 1/16th chance (1/12 if you have the Heroic Epic) when an elite (who hasn't already produced a MGL) wins a battle. I think this applies to all civ3 versions. I also believe that militaristic civs get half the probablitiy of getting one.
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 07:49 AM   #3
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There is no unit that generates a higher percentage of GLs than others.

It may seem that way for a number of reasons, 1) by the time you have Modern Armor, most players have already built the Heroric Epic which increases the chances of GLs and 2) Late Era wars tend to be longer with more chances for spawning GL.
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 07:59 AM   #4
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Re: Are some units more likely to produce GLs?

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Vanilla/PTW question--

Seems to me that Modern Armor produces more GLs than other units.

I am playing a Monarch-level huge world game and durimg my rceent wars with the Indians and US, I was producing a lot more GLs than usual,a nd almost all of them came from Mod. Armor.

Anyone else noticing anything similar?
In order to get GL you must have Elite units, although there is no unit that generates a higher percentage of GLs than others, there are a few units that will HELP to generate Elites units more often than other units, and Modern Armor is one of them.

As you know you will need an average of 12 to 16 ELITE victories to get a GL, the problem is to have enough ELITE units to be able to fight and win those battles.
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 08:03 AM   #5
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Modern Armour does generate more leaders than other units. Because of their blitz ability they get 3 chances of creating a leader per turn. Similarly, tanks get two chances.
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 08:37 AM   #6
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Actually, I seem to have more than my share of "surprise" losses if I attack a 2nd time with same MA

Of course, your milage may vary
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 05:54 PM   #7
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Modern Armour does generate more leaders than other units. Because of their blitz ability they get 3 chances of creating a leader per turn. Similarly, tanks get two chances.

A factor in this is that anytime a unit wins two combats in one turn they are upgraded. I find that once I start using modern armor in a war it gets to the point that roughly a third of my modern armors are elite because of this. With cavalry and tanks the percentage of elite units is much lower. Also in almost all my games by the time I get to where I can produce modern armor I have a large group of core cites that are fully developed and can turn them out in much higher numbers than I could other units earlier in the game.
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 06:57 PM   #8
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also it's easier to get a GL from attcking than from defending...
and i guess you use moderm armor to attack..
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Old Mar 29, 2004, 10:26 PM   #9
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I also believe that militaristic civs get half the probablitiy of getting one.
That turns out not to be the case. Militaristic Civs get a better chance of producing an elite unit, not a MGL. The only way to increase that chance is to build the Heroic Epic.
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Old Mar 30, 2004, 01:00 AM   #10
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Some units being able to produce more GL's is not a complete myth. The stronger attack, the more likely victory, and thus it is more likely to be able to produce a MGL.
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Old Mar 30, 2004, 01:23 AM   #11
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Some units being able to produce more GL's is not a complete myth. The stronger attack, the more likely victory, and thus it is more likely to be able to produce a MGL.
We're not talking about this indirect link. So, it stands: every elite unit which wins a battle gets the same chance of propting a MGL (which hasn't already).
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