Turn Civ4 into RPG

Blackbird_SR-71 · Jul 27, 2004, 10:15 AM

okay all the people who have seen the title probably think i'm a whack but this is my 2 cents

first of all i think turns should be dropped because it would be more fun to have the AI move at the same time as you like in multiplayer. this would make the it more strategic since you can't just see all the AI units in your turn and take a long time to make up a strategy. this would add you to think out-of-the-box to counter sudden AI moves

if you think about it it would add more gameplay to the game and make it harder to win

since they dropped turns you should also drop movement points since you no longer have turns and now all the units have infinate movement points since their is no turns restricting gameplay.

these changes would make Civilization 4 into a RPG(Role Playing Game) instead of TBG (Turn based game).

Hope you like my idea but if you don't, don't hate me for it

The Last Conformist · Jul 27, 2004, 10:28 AM

Worst. Idea. Ever.

ybbor · Jul 27, 2004, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird_SR-71

okay all the people who have seen the title probably think i'm a whack but this is my 2 cents

it's like you read my mind!?!

CivCube · Jul 27, 2004, 10:33 AM

No...that would make Civ an RTS. A role-playing game is an adventure game, not a strategy game.

biggamer132 · Jul 27, 2004, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Last Conformist

Worst. Idea. Ever.

Agreed. That would ruin any strategy game.

sealman · Jul 27, 2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Last Conformist

Worst. Idea. Ever.

Maybe not the worst idea ever, but close.

No, now that I think of it, it is.

Civ is a turn based game. period. RTS games lack the strategy element that CIV provides. It is all reflexes

There are plenty of games on the market that may be what you are seeking. Rise of Nations comes to mind.

Haradrim · Jul 27, 2004, 11:16 AM

Wow. It's not as bad as turning Civ into a FPS, but still pretty bad.

Diogenes183 · Jul 27, 2004, 11:17 AM

Its been done - Rise of Nations. Lot of people liked it. I thought it was somewhere between OK and good. It can't compare to 3C3 though.

I would recommend playing one of the Total War games. They are turn-based/RTS hybrids that are simply outstanding.

Also, Soren has already stated that Civ4 will be turn based.

You should read the post about Civ4 being a FPS, it was hilarious.

Also, not that it matters but: Civ4 should be turn based, otherwise it would ruin everything. There are tons of games that rely on reflexes but very few pure strategy games. Civ is the flagship series, the heart and soul, of this small genre.

Blackbird_SR-71 · Jul 27, 2004, 11:54 AM

okay so everyone thinks i'm a nut now

oh well just a idea that know i think about it isn't very good

civilleader · Oct 03, 2004, 07:28 PM

The beauty of Civ is its turn based interface. Changing it would kill the basic ideas of Civ ever since Civ 1. It'll also require so much more RAM for that too.

Philips beard · Oct 04, 2004, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by civilleader

The beauty of Civ is its turn based interface. Changing it would kill the basic ideas of Civ ever since Civ 1. It'll also require so much more RAM for that too.

Yeah, I agree! If the Civ series went real time, I would cry, and perhaps try to kill myself! The meaning of life itselves would vanish if CIV became a copy of a bad copy of itself, read Rise of Nations!
CIV could never be so complex and challanging if it wasnt turnbased. Turnbased is the best format for a strategy game, RTS is best used in tactical games like C&C Generals!
(If RON was turnbased I think it could have been something)

LLXerxes · Oct 04, 2004, 05:53 AM

Sry.
No offense, but that idea sucks...

JG99_Korab · Oct 04, 2004, 07:32 AM

yep sorry man

Thriller4ever · Oct 04, 2004, 07:59 AM

this is a really bad idea i think, sorry man

Jon Shafer · Oct 04, 2004, 11:23 AM

Why would you want all units to have infinite movement?

Davidizer13 · Oct 04, 2004, 12:31 PM

ARE YOU CRAZY? Turn Civilization into a Role Player? Maybe you mean RTS, or Real Time Strategory? Still, YOU'RE CRAZY! The system is good how it is! There's already too many games like that out there, anyway. I have several people who like the turn based system. If you want that system, go play Age of Empires or Rise of Nations! They're coming out with an AOE 3 soon, but you can take your copy of Civilization and smash it if that's what you want!
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Blackbird_SR-71 · Oct 04, 2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Davidizer13

ARE YOU CRAZY? Turn Civilization into a Role Player? Maybe you mean RTS, or Real Time Strategory? Still, YOU'RE CRAZY! The system is good how it is! There's already too many games like that out there, anyway. I have several people who like the turn based system. If you want that system, go play Age of Empires or Rise of Nations! They're coming out with an AOE 3 soon, but you can take your copy of Civilization and smash it if that's what you want!
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Mount St. Helens burped again! Hooray! I love seeing things blow up and get destroyed.

good

bad

wow man you don't need to go being so mad.......

I really chose the wrong words I was just suggesting what the game would be like if their was a turnless mode.

Note:
I think I may have set the record of having everyone in the thread fiercly against my

Jul 27, 2004, 10:15 AM	#1
Blackbird_SR-71 Spying from 85,000 ft Join Date: May 2004 Location: Centreville Posts: 1,177	Turn Civ4 into RPG okay all the people who have seen the title probably think i'm a whack but this is my 2 cents first of all i think turns should be dropped because it would be more fun to have the AI move at the same time as you like in multiplayer. this would make the it more strategic since you can't just see all the AI units in your turn and take a long time to make up a strategy. this would add you to think out-of-the-box to counter sudden AI moves if you think about it it would add more gameplay to the game and make it harder to win since they dropped turns you should also drop movement points since you no longer have turns and now all the units have infinate movement points since their is no turns restricting gameplay. these changes would make Civilization 4 into a RPG(Role Playing Game) instead of TBG (Turn based game). Hope you like my idea but if you don't, don't hate me for it

Jul 27, 2004, 10:28 AM	#2
The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Not on your side Posts: 27,780	Worst. Idea. Ever. __________________ Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else? CivIII stuff: Hexette (16x16 World Map), The Classic Maya Scenario, Resource gfx, Other gfx, ACW C3C

Oct 03, 2004, 07:28 PM	#10
civilleader Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Earth, Dharti, Bhumi, Gaea, Mundus Posts: 325	The beauty of Civ is its turn based interface. Changing it would kill the basic ideas of Civ ever since Civ 1. It'll also require so much more RAM for that too. __________________ Five India Mods

Oct 04, 2004, 11:23 AM	#15
Jon Shafer Conifer Games President Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,049	Why would you want all units to have infinite movement? __________________ Check out At the Gates, my new 4X game!

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Jul 27, 2004, 10:33 AM	#4
CivCube Haw! Harumph! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indeed! Posts: 4,650 Images: 1	No...that would make Civ an RTS. A role-playing game is an adventure game, not a strategy game.

Jul 27, 2004, 11:16 AM	#7
Haradrim Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 83	Wow. It's not as bad as turning Civ into a FPS, but still pretty bad.

Jul 27, 2004, 11:17 AM	#8
Diogenes183 Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 98	Its been done - Rise of Nations. Lot of people liked it. I thought it was somewhere between OK and good. It can't compare to 3C3 though. I would recommend playing one of the Total War games. They are turn-based/RTS hybrids that are simply outstanding. Also, Soren has already stated that Civ4 will be turn based. You should read the post about Civ4 being a FPS, it was hilarious. Also, not that it matters but: Civ4 should be turn based, otherwise it would ruin everything. There are tons of games that rely on reflexes but very few pure strategy games. Civ is the flagship series, the heart and soul, of this small genre.

Jul 27, 2004, 11:54 AM	#9
Blackbird_SR-71 Spying from 85,000 ft Join Date: May 2004 Location: Centreville Posts: 1,177	okay so everyone thinks i'm a nut now oh well just a idea that know i think about it isn't very good

Oct 04, 2004, 05:53 AM	#12
LLXerxes Space Travel is Boring Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,079 Images: 2	Sry. No offense, but that idea sucks...

Oct 04, 2004, 07:32 AM	#13
JG99_Korab King Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Zielona Gora, Poland Posts: 843	yep sorry man

Oct 04, 2004, 07:59 AM	#14
Thriller4ever Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 60	this is a really bad idea i think, sorry man

Oct 04, 2004, 12:31 PM	#16
Davidizer13 Mega Warlord! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: You are not cleared for this info Posts: 101	ARE YOU CRAZY? Turn Civilization into a Role Player? Maybe you mean RTS, or Real Time Strategory? Still, YOU'RE CRAZY! The system is good how it is! There's already too many games like that out there, anyway. I have several people who like the turn based system. If you want that system, go play Age of Empires or Rise of Nations! They're coming out with an AOE 3 soon, but you can take your copy of Civilization and smash it if that's what you want! ________________________________________ Mount St. Helens burped again! Hooray! I love seeing things blow up and get destroyed. good bad

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