Alex Ferguson's Future?

Sweeney Todd · Aug 31, 2004, 02:03 AM

Should Alex Furguson go now or face a humiliating league position after a glorious 18 year dynasty as manager of Manchester Utd?

Shabbaman · Aug 31, 2004, 02:40 AM

It's a disaster. They should've sacked him when he let Stam go.

Sweeney Todd · Aug 31, 2004, 05:28 AM

I wasn't mad on Stam, but he should go anyhow. He's there too long. I think fans are afraid he'll go and then Utd will play crap for a few seasons until they get someone decent again. I don't think reputation counts when your team starts playing poorly. Like 0-0 with a half Everton squad...jesus.

Shabbaman · Aug 31, 2004, 06:36 AM

Even my mother could make ManU play better than this.

Dell19 · Aug 31, 2004, 07:47 AM

Well I wasn't expecting this thread... But then again two other premiership teams have sacked their managers so I guess a poor performance after 4 games (Where we qualified for the CL) is just too terrible to accept...

Lord_Sidious · Aug 31, 2004, 07:48 AM

I think that Queiroz should be United's manager

Lambert Simnel · Sep 01, 2004, 05:21 AM

This is a joke, right ? I can only presume that Sweeney is a Gooner....

Dell19 · Sep 01, 2004, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambert Simnel

This is a joke, right ?

Thats what I'm assuming. One team still has the same manager and got the player they wanted whilst another sacked theirs and didn't get the player...

prettyvacant · Sep 08, 2004, 03:14 PM

Man U should learn the lesson of Newcastle. Get someone lined up during the next few months to take over during the next close season. But dont tell anybody.

BCLG100 · Sep 09, 2004, 02:13 PM

well hasnt martin oneill been lined up for like the last 3 years? and queiroz dont make me laugh look at how well he did in madrid.

Dell19 · Sep 09, 2004, 03:05 PM

Madrid is an odd place to manage... There seem to be a lot of other factors where the manager doesn't always have control and really not many managers seem to succeed there recently anyway.

Btw I never voted in the poll since there is no moderately no option...

Scuffer · Sep 09, 2004, 04:54 PM

Selling Beckham and expecting Fortune/Fletcher to do the same job was pretty daft, but the sack? And become like Newcastle?

Lambert Simnel · Sep 10, 2004, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuffer

Selling Beckham and expecting Fortune/Fletcher to do the same job was pretty daft, but the sack? And become like Newcastle?

Actually, given his recent performances, getting £20 million or so for Beckham doesn't look like such a bad deal now. (I realise this is a bit of an about face from some of my comments last season, where they did clearly lack on the right wing after the sale, but if you're wise after the event, hey, at least you're wiser....)

phoenix_night · Sep 11, 2004, 04:37 PM

I think he should be sacked.

Man Utd are so far behind Arsenal now. I think he's doing more harm than good for the club. He's spent £35m on Rooney/Smith this summer, while this year Kezman and Defoe have both been sold for what? £10m? Then look back over his recent deals...Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Forlan...hardly impressive. It shows on the pitch too...they just can't play top class football these days, and this season...6 points from 5 games. Already 9 points behind Arsenal and out of the title race (not that I think they were ever in a position to compete).

Why not let Queiroz take over? He has experience with the club, and people are ignoring what really happened at Madrid. For the majority of the season, he was a great success. Madrid were at one stage 8 (I think) points clear, with not that long to go. Obviously he can take some of the blame for their spectacular collapse, but there were other reasons - the squad...its defence, and its depth.

I don't think it really matters though. Man Utd are old news now.

Joeb WK · Sep 12, 2004, 12:48 PM

You cant be serious here. Hes the most succesful manager the premiership has ever known and you say he should be sacked just because hes had a poor start to the season.

phoenix_night · Sep 13, 2004, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeb Wan Kenobi

You cant be serious here. Hes the most succesful manager the premiership has ever known and you say he should be sacked just because hes had a poor start to the season.

Well, I don't know if that's aimed towards me, but I certainly didn't say that.

Slashvex · Sep 22, 2004, 08:44 AM

Joeb Wan Kenobi he definately should be sacked he's is ruining man u's team!
But as a newcastle supported i say he can stay there as long as he likes!

Scuffer · Sep 22, 2004, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambert Simnel

Actually, given his recent performances, getting £20 million or so for Beckham doesn't look like such a bad deal now. (I realise this is a bit of an about face from some of my comments last season, where they did clearly lack on the right wing after the sale, but if you're wise after the event, hey, at least you're wiser....)

Oh, the money they got for Beckham was good business, no doubt, but they spent none of it on replacements. Look at the forwards they have (and apologies for terrible speeling)

Ruud van Nistelroy
Ole Gunnar Solskear
Diego Forlan
David Bellion
Louis Saha
Wayne Rooney
Alan Smith

Four of these are proper good, but you have Fletcher/Fortune hoofing them into the middle. Bad, especially now Giggs isnt looking so hot. Result - go through the middle, and Fergs hasn't bought very well there either really. They'll be fight Liverpool and Newcastle for 3rd/4th/5th if they are not careful.

Lambert Simnel · Sep 28, 2004, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuffer

Oh, the money they got for Beckham was good business, no doubt, but they spent none of it on replacements. Look at the forwards they have (and apologies for terrible speeling)

Ruud van Nistelroy
Ole Gunnar Solskear
Diego Forlan
David Bellion
Louis Saha
Wayne Rooney
Alan Smith

Four of these are proper good, but you have Fletcher/Fortune hoofing them into the middle. Bad, especially now Giggs isnt looking so hot. Result - go through the middle, and Fergs hasn't bought very well there either really. They'll be fight Liverpool and Newcastle for 3rd/4th/5th if they are not careful.

Actually, If Solskjaer was fit, I think Ferguson would play him on the right wing (where he was keeping Beckham out of the team), though he does like Fletcher at awful lot. Is Fortune getting that many games ? I had expected Ronaldo & Giggs to keep him out.

Perhaps he will play Rooney behind van Nistelrooy, either in the 4-4-1-1 thing that he likes to use in Europe, or in the hole behind a Ruud + Saha or Smith front pair ?

Scuffer · Sep 28, 2004, 09:33 AM

True, if Solskjaer were fit then he may well play on the right. But he isn't, and if he were Real Madrid wouldn't have come waving the chequebook anyway. They just don't have the options there. Ronaldo is in superb form though, but Giggs isn't.

I think he'll use both those formations, depending on the game. Scholes doesn't look the player he was this season and Rooney could be perfect there against some opposition. The 4-4-1-1 will be ideal against stronger too, as it will allow another defensive player to play alongside Keane in the middle.

Heh, I'm talking myself round to their strengths here!

They released their finacial results yesterday, the result being that they have to sell to buy, and I reckon they must be regretting the 50 mil for Rooney, Smith and Saha.

View Poll Results: What would you do with Alex Ferguson?
Sack him now!	6	30.00%
Give him a few more games and then see...	1	5.00%
Sack him at the end of the season...	5	25.00%
Leave him at Utd cos he's a legend!	8	40.00%
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Aug 31, 2004, 02:03 AM	#1
Sweeney Todd Warlord Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the EU Posts: 297	Alex Ferguson's Future? Should Alex Furguson go now or face a humiliating league position after a glorious 18 year dynasty as manager of Manchester Utd?

Aug 31, 2004, 02:40 AM	#2
Shabbaman rebuffing the rebels Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the new civduelzone.com! Posts: 3,577	It's a disaster. They should've sacked him when he let Stam go. __________________ "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

Aug 31, 2004, 06:36 AM	#4
Shabbaman rebuffing the rebels Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the new civduelzone.com! Posts: 3,577	Even my mother could make ManU play better than this. __________________ "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"

Aug 31, 2004, 07:47 AM	#5
Dell19 Take a break Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London Posts: 15,879	Well I wasn't expecting this thread... But then again two other premiership teams have sacked their managers so I guess a poor performance after 4 games (Where we qualified for the CL) is just too terrible to accept... __________________ The MTW Succession game at CFC and the Viking Invasion succession game!, may be back one day. The Unification of Russia - A EUII AAR! Venice, a Great Power - A EUII AAR! Aragon, Catalan Independence - A EUII AAR! Italian EUII AAR - Who can stop the Ottomans? The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Aug 31, 2004, 05:28 AM	#3
Sweeney Todd Warlord Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In the EU Posts: 297	I wasn't mad on Stam, but he should go anyhow. He's there too long. I think fans are afraid he'll go and then Utd will play crap for a few seasons until they get someone decent again. I don't think reputation counts when your team starts playing poorly. Like 0-0 with a half Everton squad...jesus.

Aug 31, 2004, 07:48 AM	#6
Lord_Sidious No Fun At All Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 731	I think that Queiroz should be United's manager

Sep 01, 2004, 05:21 AM	#7
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Sep 08, 2004, 03:14 PM	#9
prettyvacant Bollinger Bolshevik Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: the red light Posts: 371	Man U should learn the lesson of Newcastle. Get someone lined up during the next few months to take over during the next close season. But dont tell anybody.

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BCLG100 Music Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lahndan Posts: 16,657	well hasnt martin oneill been lined up for like the last 3 years? and queiroz dont make me laugh look at how well he did in madrid. __________________ If olive oil comes from olives, where does baby oil come from? Cure Cancer! Start Folding Today! Thanks Mistfit! And Rheinmetall for the christmasising

Sep 09, 2004, 03:05 PM	#11
Dell19 Take a break Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: London Posts: 15,879	Madrid is an odd place to manage... There seem to be a lot of other factors where the manager doesn't always have control and really not many managers seem to succeed there recently anyway. Btw I never voted in the poll since there is no moderately no option... __________________ The MTW Succession game at CFC and the Viking Invasion succession game!, may be back one day. The Unification of Russia - A EUII AAR! Venice, a Great Power - A EUII AAR! Aragon, Catalan Independence - A EUII AAR! Italian EUII AAR - Who can stop the Ottomans? The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Sep 09, 2004, 04:54 PM	#12
Scuffer Scuffer says... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: First in the active user list! Posts: 2,655	Selling Beckham and expecting Fortune/Fletcher to do the same job was pretty daft, but the sack? And become like Newcastle?

Sep 11, 2004, 04:37 PM	#14
phoenix_night Deity Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,853	I think he should be sacked. Man Utd are so far behind Arsenal now. I think he's doing more harm than good for the club. He's spent £35m on Rooney/Smith this summer, while this year Kezman and Defoe have both been sold for what? £10m? Then look back over his recent deals...Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Forlan...hardly impressive. It shows on the pitch too...they just can't play top class football these days, and this season...6 points from 5 games. Already 9 points behind Arsenal and out of the title race (not that I think they were ever in a position to compete). Why not let Queiroz take over? He has experience with the club, and people are ignoring what really happened at Madrid. For the majority of the season, he was a great success. Madrid were at one stage 8 (I think) points clear, with not that long to go. Obviously he can take some of the blame for their spectacular collapse, but there were other reasons - the squad...its defence, and its depth. I don't think it really matters though. Man Utd are old news now.

Sep 12, 2004, 12:48 PM	#15
Joeb WK Emperor Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,122	You cant be serious here. Hes the most succesful manager the premiership has ever known and you say he should be sacked just because hes had a poor start to the season.

Sep 22, 2004, 08:44 AM	#17
Slashvex Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3	Joeb Wan Kenobi he definately should be sacked he's is ruining man u's team! But as a newcastle supported i say he can stay there as long as he likes!

Sep 28, 2004, 09:33 AM	#20
Scuffer Scuffer says... Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: First in the active user list! Posts: 2,655	True, if Solskjaer were fit then he may well play on the right. But he isn't, and if he were Real Madrid wouldn't have come waving the chequebook anyway. They just don't have the options there. Ronaldo is in superb form though, but Giggs isn't. I think he'll use both those formations, depending on the game. Scholes doesn't look the player he was this season and Rooney could be perfect there against some opposition. The 4-4-1-1 will be ideal against stronger too, as it will allow another defensive player to play alongside Keane in the middle. Heh, I'm talking myself round to their strengths here! They released their finacial results yesterday, the result being that they have to sell to buy, and I reckon they must be regretting the 50 mil for Rooney, Smith and Saha.

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