B2-spirts vs Tu160-blackjack

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by animepornstar
the swedish navy have vessels with stealth technology so i don´t think the technology is the problem for the russians.

The technology is a problem for the russians because, even after theoreticaly desinged, it is expesive as all hell, and very demanding in the production processes. Also it would not do them as much good as it costs, even if they could produce it in volume, the the US also has means of defeating some of the aspects of it, in particular the hull shapes that deflect radar to different directions than their source. This ability may in itself be achievable for the Russian federation, but is still expensive and demanding. Over the next few decades I would expect measures countering stealth to advance at a faster rate the stealth does.

 

[Cylore]

Originally posted by pavelsu
"As now refiited (necessary not only from mission cahnge, but substatial defects in the original design) the B1-B is a all purpose large bomber, with a substantial electronics package. It, as was as the B-2, is likely very supirior to the TU-160, which has had relatively little refit and modernization."

It is only what you say, and I do not believe that you are informed by no means on Tu-160 (besides I do not believe that you are very objective).
In the information known Tu-160 overcomes in everything to B1.

Sorry bud, but I don't think you're very objective. Unless the B1-B in question is one that is malfunctioning and crashing in the Indian ocean (200 million down the [big] drain there ) it is superior to the Blackjack in nearly every way... speed, RoC, payload, ect.

 

[Raptorf22]

anybody heard of the auora b4? its still a mystery plane....

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Heard of it, do'nt believe in it, yet.

 

[G-Man]

Why would the US need the auora? They don't even use the SR-71s anymore because they're too expensive to operate, so using a jet that can fly 10 times the speed of sound isn't very realistic. Why would the US need these capabilities? So that the plane can escape from the Afghan anti air systems, aka the stinger?

 

[pavelsu]

I am totally objective, Cylore. Nevertheless you demonstrate a total ignorance of the topic. Here you have some information in order that you learn a bit (I hope that you do not have problems with the units of measurement):


Tu-160:

Soviet Designation
TU-160

US-Designation
Blackjack

Design Bureau
OKB-156 Tupolev

Manufacturer
Plant Nr. 22 Kazan

Power Plant
4 HK-32 turbojet engines

Thrust
25.000 kg each

Length
54.1

Height
13.1

Wingspan
35.6m (minimum), 55.7m (maximum)

Wing surface
232 sqm

Speed
2200 km/h (maximum), 1030 km/h (ground)

Ceiling
16.000m

Weight (empty)
110.000kg

Fuel weight
148.000 kg

Maximum take-off weight
275.000 kg

Normal weapons load
9.000 kg

Maximum weapons load
40.000 kg

Range
+14.000 km (with a load of 9.000kg)

+10.500 km (with a load of 40.000 kg)

Armament
12 H-55 or 24 H-15 missiles

free falling bombs
?

Systems
?

Crew
4

Accomodation
?

Unit cost
?

Approved
?

Development began
1975

First Flight
12/19/1981

Series production started
1984

Date deployed
1987

Inventory
?


B-1b Lancer:

Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber.

Builder: Rockwell International, North American Aircraft.

Operations Air Frame and Integration: Offensive avionics, Boeing Military Airplane; defensive avionics, AIL Division.

Power Plant: Four General Electric F-101-GE-102 turbofan engine with afterburner.

Thrust: 30,000-plus pounds (13,500-plus kilograms) with afterburner, per engine.

Length: 147 feet (44.8 meters).

Wingspan: 137 feet (41.8 meters) extended forward, 78 feet (23.8 meters) swept aft.

Height: 34 feet (10.4 meters).

Weight: Empty, approximately 185,000 pounds (83,250 kilograms).

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 477,000 pounds (214,650 kilograms).

Speed: 716 knots (Mach 1,25), 607-plus knots at sea level (Mach 0,92)

Range: Intercontinental, unrefueled.

Endurance: With refueling, crew endurance.

Ceiling: 30,000 feet (9,000 meters).

Crew: Four (aircraft commander, pilot, offensive systems officer, and defensive systems officer).

Armament: Up to 84 Mark 82 conventional 500-pound bombs internally with external hard points for an additional 12 weapons. Also can be reconfigured to carry a wide range of nuclear weapons (maximun 29,030 kilograms).

Date Deployed: June 1985.Unit Cost: $200-plus million per aircraft.

Inventory: Active force, 94; ANG, 0; Reserve , 0.

 

[Mikoyan]

Ok, this was'nt a fair match-up.
I think i'll start a new thread with a poll, all-righty?