KingMackem
Chieftain
I recently got a new gaming PC and decided to test it out by running a Civ 5 vanilla game (huge map, marathon speed, deity). It's probably the 1st game of Civ 5 I've played in ca.4 years, for one reason or another. Hoping to finish it tonight via a diplomatic victory although it could also be science.
Played as the English as, despite not really liking their ability/units, I wanted the achievement. Started out on a strip of land comparable to the Caucasus (i.e. inland sea to the west and the east) on a large continent randomly generated (so much for my special ability!).
Decided to focus on gold and science and before I knew it I'd bought the alliance of all culture and maritime city states and was rounding the corner to the modern age whilst my closest competitor was still in the renaissance.
I was playing a very peacey, peacey game and decided to align myself with the most powerful clique (Rome, Germany, Iroquois, China, and India) and I succumbed to their every whim, be it demands for gold or declarations of war against the alternative main clique (America, Japan, France, and Siam).
However, my endeavours in diplomacy took a major turn at the beginning of my renaissance when Rome decided to backstab me with a denouncement shortly followed by war. This led to the other leaders in my clique turning against me. Suddenly I was isolated in a hostile world of dastardly, backstabbing toe-rags and long-term enemies. Through time, this has forced me to annihilate both Rome and the Iroquois, becoming a dominant military force.
I suppose my point is this, diplomacy was never one of the strongest points of Civ 5 (and there are many good points) and it was one of the reasons I decided to stop playing. In the early game it did help but at a point I began to just ignore everyone else, not needing research agreements, gold, or help in wars.
I never did buy any expansions and I was wondering if they have made a big difference to diplomacy. What are peoples' opinions? This is probably the biggest stumbling block to me when playing Civ 5 as I really like to submerge myself in the RPG nature of the game and feel a part of a global community.
TLDR: To what extent have the expansions improved diplomacy in Civ 5? Are they worth buying?
Played as the English as, despite not really liking their ability/units, I wanted the achievement. Started out on a strip of land comparable to the Caucasus (i.e. inland sea to the west and the east) on a large continent randomly generated (so much for my special ability!).
Decided to focus on gold and science and before I knew it I'd bought the alliance of all culture and maritime city states and was rounding the corner to the modern age whilst my closest competitor was still in the renaissance.
I was playing a very peacey, peacey game and decided to align myself with the most powerful clique (Rome, Germany, Iroquois, China, and India) and I succumbed to their every whim, be it demands for gold or declarations of war against the alternative main clique (America, Japan, France, and Siam).
However, my endeavours in diplomacy took a major turn at the beginning of my renaissance when Rome decided to backstab me with a denouncement shortly followed by war. This led to the other leaders in my clique turning against me. Suddenly I was isolated in a hostile world of dastardly, backstabbing toe-rags and long-term enemies. Through time, this has forced me to annihilate both Rome and the Iroquois, becoming a dominant military force.
I suppose my point is this, diplomacy was never one of the strongest points of Civ 5 (and there are many good points) and it was one of the reasons I decided to stop playing. In the early game it did help but at a point I began to just ignore everyone else, not needing research agreements, gold, or help in wars.
I never did buy any expansions and I was wondering if they have made a big difference to diplomacy. What are peoples' opinions? This is probably the biggest stumbling block to me when playing Civ 5 as I really like to submerge myself in the RPG nature of the game and feel a part of a global community.
TLDR: To what extent have the expansions improved diplomacy in Civ 5? Are they worth buying?