Starting Screenshot

Ginger_Ale · Jan 1, 2007

Hello Team BABE,

Here is a screenshot of your starting location. Please note the following things:

There is y-wrapping. That means units can move from the bottom of the screen and appear at the top.

The screenshot is at 4050 BC because when creating PBEM saves, you must use the first turn to assign passwords. Creating this turn before 4000 BC was made so that the game does indeed start at 4000 BC.

You have 48 hours to play this first save.

Please post in the Turn Tracker in the main forum when sent.

You are to send all saves to The Council (all team emails are in the Team Info thread in the main forum).

So, good luck, and don't forget to have fun!

Tubby Rower · Jan 1, 2007

woot.. .the game is afoot. I'll fiddle with the spreadsheet to see what I can come up with

Whomp · Jan 1, 2007

There's a happy face in the darkness SW of the forest and another S-SE of where the settler is. Generally, my guess is on the spot for the settlement but we may want to move the worker to the BG NW to get commerce rolling.

Tubby Rower · Jan 1, 2007

what I initially see is this:

starting 9 tiles = 3 BG's 2 grasslands (1 is our city center), 1 forest on grass, 1 hill & 2 plains

looking further to the fat cross in the fog (21 tiles) = starting 9 and 2 more hills, 6 more plains (1 with lux and 1 with another resource), 1 more grass, and 2 forested grasslands

we'll have 13 tiles on the river so that means that we'll have decent commerce for a while

We are in the upper right corner so most exploration should be away from our capital

Beorn-eL-Feared · Jan 1, 2007

~~We need the owrker on the hill, it reveals both boni, it is only natural to me. After that, unless we find a cattle out of reach or something, settling on the spot is generally wise.~~

EDIT: yeah, place a big black bar across that text, if anything shows it'll catch the next train.

ThERat · Jan 1, 2007

I tried to check the screen but get an error trying to load that...hmm could someone post a screen here enlarged?

Beorn-eL-Feared · Jan 1, 2007

Here you go, with the gathered intel so far. Rik uses fog-gaze friendly graphics so it was easier to see on his than on my picture.

EDIT: The lux looks most like wool to me, but I'm not sure wool is in, so I'd go for incense second, but incense is 2g and Rik's shows 1g only, which leaves us with wines, which may not produce a food anyways (cf last mtdg)

Tubby Rower · Jan 1, 2007

I don't have the nice graphics pack that shows the food/gold/shield stuff as the first picture has... but

Ginger_Ale · Jan 1, 2007

Beorn-eL-Feared said:
Here you go, with the gathered intel so far. Rik uses fog-gaze friendly graphics so it was easier to see on his than on my picture.

EDIT: The lux looks most like wool to me, but I'm not sure wool is in, so I'd go for incense second, but incense is 2g and Rik's shows 1g only, which leaves us with wines, which may not produce a food anyways (cf last mtdg)

That is actually my screenshot (and my graphics pack). I checked the editor file for the map and incense are at 2g (just like in a normal game) - the fact that only 1 gold dot is shown must be an error with my graphic pack.

Beorn-eL-Feared · Jan 1, 2007

Right, sorry Mr Ale, and I also was dumb enough to think the graphics adapted, here, for a second

ThERat · Jan 1, 2007

ok, not being the best at starts, do we send the worker on the hill or settle on the hill? Seems like we do not lose any of the goodies (3BG, incense (?) ) and might gain something...

so what is the thinking here?

Tubby Rower · Jan 1, 2007

some of us are online discussing this now.. so far, we are steering towards settling in place, and moving the worker to a bg.. but that may change

EDIT:: casey.venters AT hotmail Dot com is my MSN addy

socralynnek · Jan 1, 2007

/me is going to bed right now, so no discussing for me...

just my 2 cents. By now, I see no reason to not settle in place.
But worker to hills might reveal something interesting. I'd vote for that first, then stopping and discussing.

Tubby Rower · Jan 1, 2007

I would prefer to not waste the worker moves especiialy at this early stage...

here is the conversation I had with Beorn and Whomp

Spoiler :

ThERat · Jan 2, 2007

err, reading that conversation is a little funny but very hard to catch the essence of it.

Maybe I can sum it up that the agreement was to settle on the spot unless the worker that moves N onto the river BG reveals something game changing...so worker N and settle on the spot...

research set on writing of course and building is settler or warrior?

socralynnek · Jan 2, 2007

Worker N, then settle on spot if nothing changes is fine with me. We are Agr so any starting position is fine. the Settler factory can be the 2nd city if there is something better.

ThERat · Jan 2, 2007

who is executing the turns initially???

Wotan · Jan 2, 2007

Hi guys, sorry about the silence lately. I am now back and have also used the christmas break from mundane chores to upgrade my computer system. Now everything seems to be working fine so I am definitely up for a game of Civ now.

Worker north seems to be an apropriate first move, on that we agree. I am however inclined to regard the hill SW as my primary choice for our first town. I guess the tiles just outside of our view (NE) bears the signs of deserts or FP's. But where it actually goes should be an open question until we have the new sightings from the Worker. FP have a bad habit of striking you with disease at the wrong moment, like when justr having the settler factory up and running... Hope we see some other type of food bonus in the immediate area.

After settling we need to do some serious planning, I normally use Offa's excel tool and if it is commonly known to the team that would simplify the planning process.

On another topic. How do we go about this game? How close should be settle the core?

Tubby Rower · Jan 2, 2007

ThERat said:
who is executing the turns initially???

I can do it, but I figure that we should discuss for at least a day...

Wotan said:
I am however inclined to regard the hill SW as my primary choice for our first town.

I honestly see no need to settle on the hill. the defensive bonus gained doesn't outstrip the shields lost by working a mined hill later. If we have people attacking our capital, then the game is lost.

I doubt that anyone will start an early war like TNT did last game. Most people detested them for ruining both their chances and D'nut's chances in one fail swoop.

Wotan · Jan 2, 2007

I am more interested in getting food bonus tiles in the area of the first town. If the Worker move does not reveal any good tiles for this purpose I would gamble on going to the hill and open up a new set of tiles that could be. Also we have at least two other tiles in the area so losing one hill for production purposes is not a big deal. Besides i am not concerned with using the hill for protective purposes just to help us find a good starting spot. Getting a good settler factory is worth more than anything else in the opening stages of a game. Even losing a couple of turns moving the settler could be worth it I guess

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