Furiey
No Longer Just Lurking
I'm starting this up a little early as I'll be away on the 1st Jan.
So how do we go about winning this game?
I’m sure there have been several threads on this in the past, but the only ones I could find when I looked back through the forums are these:
Winning on 5BCC : Long Term Strategy
Our neighbours and the neighbourhood
(If anyone finds any more let me know and I’ll add the links)
From the discussions the tactic was to keep the surrounding Civs small, and this we have successfully done with Germany (gaining Berlin) and France (gaining Besancon). We are now taking on the once mighty Rome, who’s army is now weak compared to us, and with careful use of our superior forces we should capture Rome itself. This will leave us and Persia as the dominant forces on the continent, with England, Japan and a nearly defeated Babylon on the other Continent.
We are leading the tech race along with Persia who is currently also funding most of our research – where do they get all the gold from? The Japanese have gone from being backward to level in techs – are they paying the Persians? We have researched Democracy but the change has been delayed by the Roman war.
So where do we go from here? What options are still open to us for victory?
Domination was never possible with the limited cities we have
20k culture: the time for trying this is long past
100k culture: very difficult with a small number of cities, we are currently only making 139cpt and at that rate won’t get enough to win until 2218.
Conquest: still an option, but previous discussions indicated it wasn’t popular
Diplomacy: still an option, although we’d have to get everyone to like us a lot more.
Space Race: still an option, possibly the most popular in previous discussions
Histograph: still an option, we’d need to make sure nobody else wins then just keep the game going to 2050 – do we have the stamina for that?
We may not want to decide for certain on one victory condition now, but there are things we need to do to keep our options open and not lose the game:
We need to continue to keep our opponents small.
We must not let one of the others build the UN – we need to control the elections.
We must not let one of the others build their spaceship first.
But do we keep researching at full throttle? Are there techs we will not trade? When do we change to Democracy or do we stick in Republic? Do we want cities on the other continent, or do we clear the land on ours and encourage Babylon, Japan and England to build cities for us? Or do we wait to see where future resources are before we decide – Aluminium and Uranium are essential if we want to launch our own spaceship.
I have raised many questions, but my feeling is the space race is something to work towards, but not close our minds to other victories if they become available.
We need to consolidate our position on this continent, Rome needs to be reduced to a few cities, but so does Persia. We may have to leave Rome slightly larger than we would like to stop Persia from growing too strong, before returning to reduce Rome further still (Respawn is on so it may be difficult to finish them off completely).
We must keep the situation on the other continent balanced until we are secure on our own, we must not let Japan become too dominant there or with our limited cities we will not be able to compete.
We need to rush culture in our captured cities to gain land quickly.
We need to push our research hard and trade so that other Civs are paying us to research.
We need to locate the resources we need: Coal, Aluminium, Uranium
We need to look forward to building the Theory of Evolution – what techs do we want? With limited cities will the Hoover Dam be that useful or do we just not want someone else to get it?
We need Factories for increased production
We need railroads for increased production/food and easier movement.
So how do we go about winning this game?
I’m sure there have been several threads on this in the past, but the only ones I could find when I looked back through the forums are these:
Winning on 5BCC : Long Term Strategy
Our neighbours and the neighbourhood
(If anyone finds any more let me know and I’ll add the links)
From the discussions the tactic was to keep the surrounding Civs small, and this we have successfully done with Germany (gaining Berlin) and France (gaining Besancon). We are now taking on the once mighty Rome, who’s army is now weak compared to us, and with careful use of our superior forces we should capture Rome itself. This will leave us and Persia as the dominant forces on the continent, with England, Japan and a nearly defeated Babylon on the other Continent.
We are leading the tech race along with Persia who is currently also funding most of our research – where do they get all the gold from? The Japanese have gone from being backward to level in techs – are they paying the Persians? We have researched Democracy but the change has been delayed by the Roman war.
So where do we go from here? What options are still open to us for victory?
Domination was never possible with the limited cities we have
20k culture: the time for trying this is long past
100k culture: very difficult with a small number of cities, we are currently only making 139cpt and at that rate won’t get enough to win until 2218.
Conquest: still an option, but previous discussions indicated it wasn’t popular
Diplomacy: still an option, although we’d have to get everyone to like us a lot more.
Space Race: still an option, possibly the most popular in previous discussions
Histograph: still an option, we’d need to make sure nobody else wins then just keep the game going to 2050 – do we have the stamina for that?
We may not want to decide for certain on one victory condition now, but there are things we need to do to keep our options open and not lose the game:
We need to continue to keep our opponents small.
We must not let one of the others build the UN – we need to control the elections.
We must not let one of the others build their spaceship first.
But do we keep researching at full throttle? Are there techs we will not trade? When do we change to Democracy or do we stick in Republic? Do we want cities on the other continent, or do we clear the land on ours and encourage Babylon, Japan and England to build cities for us? Or do we wait to see where future resources are before we decide – Aluminium and Uranium are essential if we want to launch our own spaceship.
I have raised many questions, but my feeling is the space race is something to work towards, but not close our minds to other victories if they become available.
We need to consolidate our position on this continent, Rome needs to be reduced to a few cities, but so does Persia. We may have to leave Rome slightly larger than we would like to stop Persia from growing too strong, before returning to reduce Rome further still (Respawn is on so it may be difficult to finish them off completely).
We must keep the situation on the other continent balanced until we are secure on our own, we must not let Japan become too dominant there or with our limited cities we will not be able to compete.
We need to rush culture in our captured cities to gain land quickly.
We need to push our research hard and trade so that other Civs are paying us to research.
We need to locate the resources we need: Coal, Aluminium, Uranium
We need to look forward to building the Theory of Evolution – what techs do we want? With limited cities will the Hoover Dam be that useful or do we just not want someone else to get it?
We need Factories for increased production
We need railroads for increased production/food and easier movement.