So you're saying that they happened to come from England, but could have been replaced by Germans without anybody really noticing?
So you're saying that they happened to come from England, but could have been replaced by Germans without anybody really noticing?
I have two, I don't know the name of this battle but it was when the Spanish Moors invaded France and I think Charlamagne annihilated them. Why was this important? Well, it could have meant the Islamification of another part of Europe and the end of Christendom. Massive implications.
Second battle was when the Ottomans were also stopped at the gates of..Vienna - again if they succeeded we may all be living in a European caliphate.
If the Persians had defeated the Greek states and conquered them, they would've probably been western outposts of the empire for a while, their culture preserved like in any other provinces, and I think Greek influence on whatever the "West" is is massively overblown.
Not that Poles a load of backwards racists, or anything.And by the way - you are indeed all living in a Western European caliphate out there (at least that's what my cousin who emigrated to Germany and see how many Turks live in Hanover told me when we last met), so Vienna didn't really help you, as it appears.
the lady doth protest too much, methinksDid I say that I don't like Turks?
I like them. Ottoman Empire was one of a few states that didn't recognize the partitions of PLC.
And I have nothing against Islam at all.
I don't know why the hell you always search for appraising expressions in factual expressions.
I didn't write: "how, damn it, numerous those stupid Turks are in Hanover"
I only wrote: "how numerous Turks are in Hanover"
And what is wrong about Western Europe being an Islamic Caliphate? For me it is OK.
So you remark that Turkish immigrants to Germany have turned it into a 'caliphate'?
well, the only reason it didn't profit sobieski is because his subsequent campaign toconquerliberate the danubian principalities failed
this act of imperialism was soon forgotten because reasons
this act of imperialism was soon forgotten because reasons
Hannover doesn't have a large immigrant population. Compared to some Polish cities maybe but not compared to other western German cities of similar size.(at least that's what my cousin who emigrated to Germany and see how many Turks live in Hanover told me when we last met),
Secularism. We like it. A lot.And what is wrong about Western Europe being an Islamic Caliphate? For me it is OK.
Secularism. We like it. A lot.
Most Turks do so, too.
Most of the time we are a good fit in terms of political culture.
Because he's one of the easiest people to troll on CFC.Why are Domen's replies always at least seven times as long as the original post?
Why are Domen's replies always at least seven times as long as the original post?
You mean Poitiers. Modern historians usually write that this battle had been overrated for long time. In fact what the Franks stoppped at Poitiers was not any "full scale Muslim invasion", but just some minor plundering raid aimed at capturing loot, burning some villages and towns, and then coming back to Muslim Spain. There was no intention of Islamification of another part of Europe. So this battle was by no means decisive, just overrated.
You rewrote my college Islamic history textbook with that post.
Edit: I will confess I do not know if Domen is right on this, just that's not what I was taught 2 years ago. Especially the modern historian line.
Depends on how revisionist your professor wants be. Like if she wants to paint the Islamic invasions as a nice and peachy, entirely natural, occurrence.