oh, and I feel no need to continue the discussion either on #nes or here. Going to #nes would just result in more lunacy, and the issue of interpretation has already been resolved (you know now what I meant, and I now know why you misinterpreted) so there is no point to continue discussing with you. Hopefully you learn basic decency alongside that, but I'm a realist here and don't expect some dramatic change in your customs based on this foreigners position on the matter.