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'08 Presidential Race Exposes America's Anti-Intellectual Attitude

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I was reading an article about Obama's potential downfalls that the Republicans could exploit when I saw quite possibly the most damning evidence that America holds a bias against intelligence that I've seen yet.

Obama being seen as an 'intellectual' was actually one of the things people said would be a drawback...

In a country where we've gotten used to hearing small segments of the big picture twisted out of context, where we make decisions based on 30 second "Good Guy- Bad Guy" attack ads, where most people's political knowledge extends to soundbytes of rehashed black and white dichotomy rhetoric; Perhaps a candidate with nuanced opinions just won't cut it with America?

Consider the flag pin issue: Obama took the time to say that he thought waving the flag was a poor substitute for actual patriotism, and now our collective head is short circuiting and accusations of him being unpatriotic are taking steam.

Obama takes the time to explain that black and white people in this country have legitimate grievances and that sweeping either side under the rug is only a band aid. How many people focused on the fact that you don't hear something like that from a Presidential candidate everyday?

Obama explains that people are 'bitter' at their leaders because their economic problems have gone years and years without being relieved. Their 'biter' because politicians use wedge issues like the 2nd amendment, social issues with religious context such as abortion and gay marriage, and fear mongering about immigrants to get the people riled up about everything BUT their rising gas prices or their failing education system or their hurting economy.

Once again, the only thing that becomes a story is a tabloid-like twisting of the context.

Has America really damned itself to be a country run for idiots by idiots?

P.S. I'm not going to debate about any of those actual issues as they've been done to death and I'll ask you to refrain as well. For the 'hard of reading', the topic at hand is about America's attitude toward intellectualism and nuance in politics vs its complacency with simplified rhetoric and wedge issues.
 
Obama failed in early politics because he was too intellectual. He learned to talk down to the masses. Apparently he didn't learn to talk down enough.

"He's an educated fool, we don't want him."
 
All this talk about Obama being "too educated" and "intellectual" and "elitist" is spin, from everything I've seen he actually has the support of the masses but not the elite in the booth.

About the soundbites, IIRC I've seen a study which shows that average soundbites from the sixties fell from about 50 seconds to 7 in the 21st century, which clearly shows how A. Our attention span is going out the window. B. The talking heads are getting more (some might say "too") important, rather then the candidates.
 
Obama gets votes from the college kids in their supposed "ivory towers" while Clinton gets the votes from the uneducated workers.

You can't really spin statistics...
 
Intellectualism and liberalism are not mutually exclusive terms.
 
Has America really damned itself to be a country run for idiots by idiots?

Why do you need a hypothetical future candidate to come to a conclusion on this question?

Bush was re-elected.......
 
ITT: amadeus hit his tipping point after years of hearing he's supported an imbecile.
 
Obama is an "Intellectual" in the condescending Sidhe-type manner.

Obama is not the type of "Intellectual" who is quiet, contemplative, and sexpiggish like FredLC.
 
I agree it's a problem. Democrat's are aimed at idiots to though, like "third bush term." Really doesn't require to much thinking through.
 
Excellent! So, we can agree that America has morons on both sides of the spectrum?
 
It became evident when I hear people say they don't want an intellectual but someone they can "sit down and have a beer with."
 
P.S. I'm not going to debate about any of those actual issues as they've been done to death and I'll ask you to refrain as well.

We cant debate those actual issues you cited as proof Americans are anti-intellectual? Sorry, but it aint Obama's smarts, it was his condescending tone. That people cling to guns and religion out of bitterness toward the gov't. Hey, America was founded on guns and religion and bitterness toward gov't ;)

Consider the flag pin issue: Obama took the time to say that he thought waving the flag was a poor substitute for actual patriotism

Aint even a substitute, but the implied converse is all these people out waving the flag are posers. Thats a no win for him, whatever he says can be taken to mean something negative. If he says his religion prohibits idolatry, then all the flag waving Christians are gonna get mad. If he says the flag is sacred to him, then all the flag wavers are disrespecting the flag. If he doesn't engage in pandering and refuses to wrap himself in the flag then morons think he's unpatriotic.
 
Hey, only business people are smart enough to deal with realities. Intellectuals and thinkers are never doers.
 
It became evident when I hear people say they don't want an intellectual but someone they can "sit down and have a beer with."

Washington Post express asked that question last weekend. Obama won with over 10% more than McCain, in case anybody is wondering.

Not many want to have a beer with Clinton.
 
I'm just so damn tired of people with the "George Bush is stupid" crap. It's like they don't even bother thinking.
Of course he's not stupid. He's an actor. Not that those are mutually exclusive or anything. *cough* *Reagan*
 
It became evident when I hear people say they don't want an intellectual but someone they can "sit down and have a beer with."
I'd rather have a beer with an intellectual than some average dumbass.

Ideally of course someone that is capable of profound thought while still being socially dextrous and connected to the community/common man. Kind of like Elta. :D
 
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