1.16 - Holy Roman Empire It's time to define a strategy to play Holy Roman Empire and get the UHV. These targets are required: UHV 1 Control St.Peter Basilica in 1000 AD Control the Church of Anastasis in 1200 AD Control All Saints' Church in 1550 AD UHV 2 Have three catholic vassals in europe in 1650 AD UHV 3 Settle a total of 10 Great Artists or Great Statesmen in Vienna Have pleased relations with 8 independent European civs by 1850 UP is double speed of construction of religious buildings UU are Landsknecht (pikeman) and Grenzer (grenadier) UB is Rathouse (Civic square) Start time: 840 AD Compared to previous versions of DoC, difficult of UHV increased a lot. Now we have also to vassalize three civs, settle more GP and have less time to get Rome. Furthermore the game will end in 1850, after born of Prussians and flip of their core cities, so, we have to plan how to use our starting settlers. First of all, one question. Is it possible to play with HRE in a 3000BC start and have any hope to achive UHV1? To control St.Peter Basilica, it is necessary to have St.Peter Basilica somewhere, and conquest that city within a few turns. I don't know if it could be possible, and funny to play. So let's concentrate on 600 AD start. Starting tile is Frankfurt. It will flip to Prussians about 1700 AD. Starting army is almost enough to conquer Venice and Rome: 3 lancers, 4 catas, 3 swordmen, and some crossbows. Vienna will flip to us after 3 turns. Buda will compare little later. Venice must have. Rome is part of UHV1. The first question is how to use the two starting settlers. Frankfurt is a very good place, with iron and horses in the radius. Hamburg is on the coast, but too close to vikings (in a game Hamburg flipped to them after few turns), and in 1700 will flip to Prussians. Brandeburg is far enough from Vikings, and have many resources in its radius, but it will flip too to Prussians. I have to try to settle on Praha, 2N to Vienna, in core... Other suggestions? Analisys of UHV 1 We have to get Rome within 1000 AD. We have to occupy Jerusalem in 1200 AD. We have to found Protestantism by 1550 AD. Border with France is close and it will not open before 1000 AD, so, the way to Rome passes through Venice. Move Lancers, Catas, Swords and one Crossbow on the hill south of Vienna. In a good day French or Bizantines are trying to conquer Venice, and weak it enough to let us get it for free. In other days we have to siege and bombard. In the meantime our lancers go to east to get Buda. Units have to heal and then move to Rome. Time is very very small. I play at Epic speed in order to have more time. Once got Rome, we'll have the Catholic shrine income, that is a lot of money. But we have to occupy Jerusalem in 1200. The way by ground is too hard: we'll meet Arabs and Turkish that don't open border. So we have to choose the way by sea. Train 2 boats in Rome. We need 4 lancers if Jerusalem belongs to any civ (in this case it is often weakly defended), but if it is independent, we'll meet 4 crossbows, and 4 lancers may not be enough. But if Jerusalem is independent, we can siege it and bombard with a couple of catas. If it belongs to somebody, the plan is to attack from sea exactly in the 1200AD turn with the lancers, and escape the next turn with survivers. If it is independent, we need some turns to bombard. It is doable. With a bit of luck, but doable. The UHV 3 In the meantime other cities must work for UHV3. We need 2 cities, one for GA and one for GS. Theater, veawer and National Theater for artists. Rathouse, National Monument and courthouse for statesmen. Also we need Santa Maria del Fiore, and a civic to increase GP production. So let start research path to Patronage. The open points where i have not yet a solution are the diplomatic targets: a) vassalize 3 catholic civ (there will be no Italy. First civ is Poland, the second must be a catholic France, and third? Spain? Portugal? What else? b) Pleased relations with 8 independent European civs by 1850. From west to east we have Portugal, Spain, France, England, Nederlands, Scandinavia, Prussia, Poland, Russia... (Greece may not spring, and Italy belongs to us) Are Ottomans European? This last point needs suggestions. So, best strategy involves the following questions: 1) Where to settle at the beginning of the game 2) What civs do vassalize? 3) How to manage in order to get pleased relations.