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-1 as the Map Random Seed

TheGeoffey

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This may be me being really stupid, or then again, maybe not

originally, the Game Random Seed and the Map Random Seed were always 1 digit apart with Game being 1 lower than Map. At some point this summer - maybe at 1.2.3 - the Map number started listing as -1 all the time.

Some times I leave it, some times I change it to the old way. I think my life is better when I change it - but I cancel the games and start over so often because of sucky placement or sucky maps or whatever, I can't really say for sure. So, that's where the "I may be stupid" comes in. Does it matter or am I just being a nerd?

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The latest Dev video talked about their new map algorithm. IIRC, the "Continents and Islands" map type is one of those which use the new algorithm. So perhaps the map seed is no longer relevant (always set to -1) ?
 
The latest Dev video talked about their new map algorithm. IIRC, the "Continents and Islands" map type is one of those which use the new algorithm. So perhaps the map seed is no longer relevant (always set to -1) ?
I thought it may not be using it - but it started before the this new update. I'm not sure changing it or not does anything - but it was just one of those things I noticed and it bugged me
 
I see you are using mods, it's possibly that the mod is breaking the configuration data.
I thought about that - so I turned things on and off to try and figure it out to no luck - BUT turns out I am an idiot. I needed to close the game and reopen it to reset between the mod changes to reset that particular error turns out it's the mod More Diverse Maps

Mystery solved

AND - the newest version of the mod seems to correct it so, what a world what a world
 
So do I have any disadvantages if I don't change that "-1" manually?
You get the same general map outline, with goodies and resources moved around somewhat. Here are three different start ups with the same saved configuration but different generated random seeds and with the map random seed left at -1

mostly the same thing.

I got rid of the problem by turning off More Diverse Maps, closing Civ VII, going to the Steam mods, unsubscribing to it, resubscribing, and then reopening Civ and reenabling the mod. Poof fixed

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