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1 in 6 Americans on food stamps

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Integral, Jul 10, 2011.

  1. Integral

    Integral Can't you hear it?

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    1 in 10
    1 in 9
    1 in 7

    And now, 1 in 6:

    Despite GDP numbers, the recession is not over yet...

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    (Source data)

    And the average food stamp allotment remains at $133 per person per month.
     
  2. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    How much of this could be people figuring out how to qualify? In retirement planning, you'd be surprised how many seniors shuffle money between accounts and then suddenly qualify for senior assistance programs. Heck, it was SOP for quite awhile ...

    At least the price of food looks to be declining recently.
    (The chart should autoload when you click the link! I'm talking about the recent down-tick)
    http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=food-price-index&months=180
     
  3. Godwynn

    Godwynn March to the Sea

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    I need to get signed up for food stamps.
     
  4. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Any day now, the 2001 lowering of marginal rates at the top end will trickle down.
     
  5. aw3524

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    I think people are still waiting for that 800 billion to trickle up.
     
  6. kronic

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    That should raise a few questions about the validity of the official GDP numbers, shouldn't it?
     
  7. Godwynn

    Godwynn March to the Sea

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  8. innonimatu

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    There's a trend there, all right. So, are we having a game of "guess when it'll hit 1 in 5" or what?
     
  9. amadeus

    amadeus Serenity now!

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    The left should count this as a success, not a failure. After all, they want everyone to be on socialized medicine, why not have socialized food too? Our goal should be to have 100% of Americans on the system and impose no benefit caps.

    "I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
     
  10. downtown

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    If the wealth was spread around, 1 in 6 americans wouldn't be so poor they needed food stamps.
     
  11. amadeus

    amadeus Serenity now!

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    Being on the program doesn't mean you need it.
     
  12. downtown

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    Me and Godwynn just looked up the requirements to get on food stamps. In Illinois, you need a household to have a monthly income below 1,250 (gross). The rest of it varies by household size, but these are *low* income levels. Even if you don't believe that these people deserve supplemental food budgeting, the fact that more Americans are tumbling from middle class lifestyles, or even working class ones, to the point where they need help buying groceries should ring some alarm bells.
     
  13. JollyRoger

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    The stock market and profit reports show that it has.
     
  14. Dreadnought

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    I can't wait for the government to go totally socialist, so it can buy me all my groceries too. I won't have to work another day in my life.
     
  15. JollyRoger

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    You don't have to work right now.
     
  16. amadeus

    amadeus Serenity now!

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    It rings a lot of alarm bells for me, but the alarm is about the absurdity of government policy. Let's take one item as an example: sugar. The federal government has an import quota/tariff regime on sugar which causes sugar prices to rise, meaning it takes more money for consumers to buy their groceries. So in response, the government issues SNAP cards to people so that they can buy the groceries at prices artificially inflated by the government.

    On top of that, the government also establishes mandates for corn ethanol usage in energy production. While noble in its intent, it actually consumes more energy to produce the ethanol than it would just to sell the gas used in its production directly to the consumers. So all of that wasted corn again drives up the price of groceries.

    On the municipal level, you've also got city councils that refuse to allow low-price retailers from entering the market. That means people either need to use more resources to get to the store or pay inflated prices at mom-and-pop shops.

    Remove those restrictions and a great number of people probably wouldn't need to be on the program anymore.
     
  17. JollyRoger

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    While we are at it, remove government restrictions on people being able to sue the individual owners of low-price retailers rather than forcing the suit to be against the collective class of owners.
     
  18. useless

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    Ah yes, the Massive "left" obviously just loves this.
     
  19. amadeus

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    I don't see why the rationalizations used to justify nationalizing the health care system are any more or less flimsy when applied to something even more basic, like food.

    Don't you think that it's morally wrong that food is subjected to the profit motive? Don't you think that the government should guarantee access to groceries for everyone, perhaps even establish its own line of grocery stores in impoverished areas so as to provide greater access to food for the poor? Of course, "everyone can still keep their own private grocery stores," it's just that the public option grocery store will be cheaper because the government can tax and subsidize it.
     
  20. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Different situations. Universal health care is simply better than the system the US has now. People don't want to nationalize because they want to nationalize it. They want to nationalize it because the alternative is a failed system that is constantly getting worse and will eventually cripple the nation's economy if it is not massively reformed.

    Food stamps is different. There's plenty of food. Just a growing part of the country cannot afford to feed itself.

    Instead of food stamps, we could work for higher wages and lower unemployment and accomplish the same thing. But that won't work with health care. Because the costs are so out of control with that.
     

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