1 in 7 Americans on Food Stamps

Usually am, though its different depending on the situation.

If welfare is going to exist though, food stamps are a pretty good way of doing it. Then, people are actually getting food instead of drugs off welfare...

1 in 7 though! That is a way too high of a number. Why do so many Americans need handouts?

I also wonder what sort of checks and balances are in place to make sure that people on food stamps use them properly? I heard a story a little while ago on reddit that somebody was using food stamps to buy sirloin steaks. Now, that is only anecdotal, but IS there anything in place to make sure that people don't abuse the system?
 
Perhaps if we increased wages for the lower class, they'd have enough to buy their own food.
 
Perhaps if we increased wages for the lower class, they'd have enough to buy their own food.

ahh yes, increase wages so they get laid off and they are unemployed. Brilliant solution.

This may come as a surprise to some people, but corporations don't make infinite amount of money. Right now, many places of business in my city are losing money. Even casinos, which allegedly steal people's money are losing money. Until the recession ends, no one is making any significant amount of money in my city. Yes there are exceptions, I heard GE made a huge amount of money, and of course oil companies do. But they are the exception, not the rule.
 
I don't think we have the money to really make it broader. If that many people are on food stamps, any extra money needs to be spend on job creation and redevelopment, not potato chip money.

Food stamps and unemployment checks have been one of the best effective methods of stimulus and thus job creation. If we didn't have a substantial food stamp program plan already, so many urban and rural grocers/ convenience stores in economically struggling places would not just have had to cut back, but have completely gone under meaning that many more jobs lost.
 
ahh yes, increase wages so they get laid off and they are unemployed. Brilliant solution.

Bad reasoning there. Corporations pay a fair wage>employees have more money>employees spend more>economy rises>corporations increase profitability long term. Everybody wins.

OK you can make an arguement that wages can go too high, but you cannot make an arguement that current wages in the US are even remotely close to being at that level.

The main reason though why most major companies don't adopt this format is because they are being run by their boards on a basis that generates the most money for the members of the boards in wages and bonuses. That means they will try to ramp up short-term profits to unrealistic levels even while killing off the long-term viability of that company. The easiest way to do this, sack 20% of the workers and force the rest to work longer and harder for less.

This problem is then compounded by the vulture capitalists who go around buying up failed companies for a song, kicking the employees even further, repackaging the profitable parts of companies and killing the rest.

Rising wages (at the bottom) at this very moment would probably be one of the most efficient, fair and easy ways to kick the world's economies out of their current depression.
 
...if you own a computer and printer, have an awful lot of time to shop and a culinary knack for making disparate items taste good together.

Is food "Tasting good together," a necessity?

That was hyperbole to prove a point though. I wasn't really suggesting that we reduce food stamps to 31 bucks per month (It would be interesting to see who could and who couldn't adapt though...)
 
Is food "Tasting good together," a necessity?

That was hyperbole to prove a point though. I wasn't really suggesting that we reduce food stamps to 31 bucks per month (It would be interesting to see who could and who couldn't adapt though...)

And what point would that be?
 
Bad reasoning there. Corporations pay a fair wage>employees have more money>employees spend more>economy rises>corporations increase profitability long term. Everybody wins.
That's normally true, but only if keeping someone employed under higher wages is still net profitable. Otherwise, an employee will be layed off anyway.

OK you can make an arguement that wages can go too high, but you cannot make an arguement that current wages in the US are even remotely close to being at that level.
When current wages prevent full employment (sticky wages) or lead to cost-push inflation (wage-price spiral) wages are too high.

The main reason though why most major companies don't adopt this format is because they are being run by their boards on a basis that generates the most money for the members of the boards in wages and bonuses. That means they will try to ramp up short-term profits to unrealistic levels even while killing off the long-term viability of that company. The easiest way to do this, sack 20% of the workers and force the rest to work longer and harder for less.
Companies aren't charities. They do what should do: Make profit. If you want to prevent this, use government regulation to make this unprofitable. Preventing companies from making profit will never work anyway.

This problem is then compounded by the vulture capitalists who go around buying up failed companies for a song, kicking the employees even further, repackaging the profitable parts of companies and killing the rest.
Generally speaking, when companies make loss, it is an indication that the unprofitable action in question is wasteful. Government spending and regulation may be used to rectify it, but if it is inpractical or doesn't pay for itself, then it's obvious that it is a wrong thing to do anyway.

Rising wages (at the bottom) at this very moment would probably be one of the most efficient, fair and easy ways to kick the world's economies out of their current depression.
And who'll pay for this? No one ofcourse! Rising minimum wages generally (though not always) backfires because too many employees will become a net-loss for a company, and hence will be laid off. Perhaps a taxpayer funded negative tax bracket for low income workers may have the effect you desire. It'll increase low income workers incomes without comprising their employability.
 
That's normally true, but only if keeping someone employed under higher wages is still net profitable. Otherwise, an employee will be layed off anyway.

I already mentioned this, and as I said American wages (except at the top) are nowhere near the levels where this would kick in.
 
I already mentioned this, and as I said American wages (except at the top) are nowhere near the levels where this would kick in.
How'd you explain the 9% unemployment, mainly among low-income groups? The market clearing wage is much lower than the average wages currently paid, mostly because the economy still suffers because of the effects of sticky wages. That's why the Fed carried out QE.
 
ahh yes, increase wages so they get laid off and they are unemployed. Brilliant solution.

This may come as a surprise to some people, but corporations don't make infinite amount of money. Right now, many places of business in my city are losing money. Even casinos, which allegedly steal people's money are losing money. Until the recession ends, no one is making any significant amount of money in my city. Yes there are exceptions, I heard GE made a huge amount of money, and of course oil companies do. But they are the exception, not the rule.

Well I would think that employees would be customers as well. If employees are paid less, they have less money to spend, thus less products are being sold, thus more employees are being laid off, thus less products are being sold, etc etc. If one gives employees a modest raise, they're probably going to spend a little more, thus giving a little more profits. I'm not an economist but this seems like it makes sense.

I wonder how much a CEO makes and how much of his or her salary is based on what he does in a company. Is a CEO closing down stores and putting people out of work so they can afford a 6 figure bonus? I believe this is happening with one of those big book stores.
 
First you move their jobs to another country,
then you chastise them for having no job.

No, just for refusing to compete with foreign workers, living in state capitalist dictatorships like the PRC, where companies don't have to respect minimum wage laws or safety regulations. If our poor were willing to take $.5 an hour, for 14 hours a day, with a serious risk of injury or death, they wouldn't be having such problems.

God forbid we nationalize industries before corporations get the chance to dismantle them themselves, or at the very least, penalize companies which consort with oppressive dictatorships to the detriment of us all. That would upset the richest .1% of society, and only Godless commies, like those Chinese fascists all the corporations love, would do such a thing.
 
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