152.12 Slavers have default Bombard Range of 2

[lukeloh]

Hi Thal

I note that in 152.6 you gave pre-industrial Light ships a Range of 1. This is a great idea and makes the game more fun (at least for me).

To my horror however I found that Slavers can still bombard me at Range 2 even without any promotions. Should all barbarian class light ships be similarly limited to 1 till Industrial?

Thanks!

 

[Thalassicus]

I haven't decided yet. A range of 2 does make these ships more dangerous, and barbarian ships are typically not much of a threat.

 

[lukeloh]

You're right, they aren't much of a threat. Without any other way to buff them it might be better to leave them with Range 2 - making them Range 1 may make it a lot easier for Settlers to sneak past on water maps.

Other suggestions:

1. (consistency) Grant the Range promotion to all Barbarian navies as default.
2. (strength) Default Range of 1, grant 10 or 30 xp to Barbarian navies.

 

[Thalassicus]

#1 sounds good, and will provide a visual reason for the higher range.

 

[Jaybe]

Barbs don't accrue promotions from their experience, do they? I've surely never seen any barb promotion icons other than extra-movement-through-woods/hills/deserts, and then only in the early game.

I (halfheartedly) DEMAND equal opportunity for barbarians!

 

[Prodigyx732]

I find barb ships don't even attack me. Perhaps this doesn't take affect till era X? They kinda just run away from me as I track them down with my ships for + culture/gold

 

[Thalassicus]

Barbs don't gain experience or heal in vanilla. I wrote code in VEM to heal fortified barbs (and ships), but manually coding experience would be much more difficult.

 

[dragonpunch]

It is kind of unreal for barb ships to have greater range than the civ's ships. Gameplay-wise it's fine, but it's not good from realism point of view.

 

[Prodigyx732]

It is kind of unreal for barb ships to have greater range than the civ's ships. Gameplay-wise it's fine, but it's not good from realism point of view.

Heh, if you do some research, a couple people (back when the game first came out) pointed out this game isn't really realistic anyway. Regarding some history, tech's, terrain, the whole nine yards.

I think it's a good change, I've actually seen them attack me since the change for Range of 2. Regardless of the AI still being stupid. They don't attack often though.