[Vote] (2-11) Proposal: Higher maintenance for later buildings

[balparmak]

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VP Congress: Session 2, Proposal 11
Maintenance costs of post-industrial buildings should be higher considering the GPT increase in the later eras and the buildings' impact.
Proposal: Increase maintenance for
- Industrial buildings by 1 (to 7,8)
- Modern by 3 (to 11)
- Atomic by 5 (to 15)
- Information by 10 ( to 20)

I sponsor this.

Current VP maintenance table for referce:

Spoiler Table :

Type	Maintenance	Era
BUILDING_BARRACKS	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_GRANARY	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_HERBALIST	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_STONE_WORKS	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_WALLS	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_WELL	1	ANCIENT
BUILDING_AMPHITHEATER	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_AQUEDUCT	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_BATH	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_COLOSSEUM	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_COURTHOUSE	3	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_FORGE	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_LIBRARY	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_LIGHTHOUSE	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_TEMPLE	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_WATERMILL	1	CLASSICAL
BUILDING_ARMORY	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_CASTLE	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_CHANCERY	3	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_CIRCUS	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_GARDEN	3	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_HARBOR	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_STABLE	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_UNIVERSITY	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_WORKSHOP	2	MEDIEVAL
BUILDING_CONSTABLE	4	RENAISSANCE
BUILDING_GROCER	4	RENAISSANCE
BUILDING_OBSERVATORY	4	RENAISSANCE
BUILDING_OPERA_HOUSE	4	RENAISSANCE
BUILDING_WINDMILL	4	RENAISSANCE
BUILDING_ARSENAL	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_FACTORY	7	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_HOTEL	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_MILITARY_ACADEMY	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_MUSEUM	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_PUBLIC_SCHOOL	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_SEAPORT	7	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_STOCKYARD	7	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_THEATRE	6	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_TRAINSTATION	7	INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING_BROADCAST_TOWER	8	MODERN
BUILDING_HOSPITAL	8	MODERN
BUILDING_LABORATORY	8	MODERN
BUILDING_MINEFIELD	8	MODERN
BUILDING_WIRE_SERVICE	6	MODERN
BUILDING_AIRPORT	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_BOMB_SHELTER	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_MEDICAL_LAB	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_MILITARY_BASE	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_POLICE_STATION	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_STADIUM	10	ATOMIC
BUILDING_HYDRO_PLANT	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_INTERPRETIVE_CENTER	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_NUCLEAR_PLANT	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_SOLAR_PLANT	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_SPACESHIP_FACTORY	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_TIDAL_PLANT	10	INFORMATION
BUILDING_WIND_PLANT	10	INFORMATION

 

[nekokon]

Not liking this one due to reason I explained in the discussion thread outside. It's better to increase the investment price, which would increase gold usage AND increase science gain from bank, both would have the combined effect of making production more useful/less inflated (less investment due to cost, and faster tech - more buildings to build)

 

[AndreyK]

While I agree that it's better to increase investment price, I think that science gain from bank should be decreased at least twice, because it's too much. When you have a lot of money science gain from purchases is very significant, I don't remember exact numbers, but in Industrial and later eras I think when I bought also units (diplomatic and military) it was 35-60% of my science output.

 

[azum4roll]

Gold inflation should be solved by reducing gold sources, not increasing gold sink. Nerfing international trade routes is the way to go.

 

[BornDownUnder]

I think both the gold investment and subsequoent maintenance should both be increased, substantially so in Atomic and Information eras.

AndreyK has a great idea with the reduction of science gain as well in my opinion.

 

[crdvis16]

I don't know the best solution but totally agree that money is out of control from about mid game on. Constant investment in buildings means I just build everything rather than having to think carefully about what I build and the game starts to feel a bit mindless in that respect.

One area that I strongly think should be fixed is how AI evaluate lux costs. I can sometimes get 100gpt from an AI. I get that they might really need it due to WLTKD or happiness but they probably could get it from me for like 10gpt.

 

[beginner_]

I don't like increasing upfront cost and to a lesser degree maintenance probably due to me preferring lower levels and building large empires. with many not so good cities money can become short even late in game.
In essence it feels like a nerf to wide play and in general "unfun" as waiting for >10 turns on standard for building to complete...

 

[Recursive]

Proposal sponsored by balparmak.