2 bugs or features? Stealth Bomber vs Sub 0/10 and Neg influence when being nice

[Shockwolf]

Hi

I'm not sure if these are features or bugs, but they are certainly repeatable and I can provide a saved game if you so require it.

Situation:
I have no DLC's yet, I am using the latest patch to date. It is turn 893, 2246 AD and the Domination victory is all that is enabled on a huge map with several other civs... Hence the long game play.

Issue 1: When I send my stealth bombers to attack an enemy submarine they start dropping bombs on them about 6 times in one turn and then my bombers die. This happens on both types of subs, nukes and normal.

Issue 2: Giving gold to city states creates negative influence. Yes, that's right, the more I give them money, the more they hate me! Can you imagine that? o.O

It even says in the City State Window:
250 Gold -5 influence
500 Gold -20 influence
1000 Gold -40 influence

It is true, it happens when I try it. I had read elsewhere in another forum that Issue 2 has been happening to other people, but couldn't find it here.

 

[Shockwolf]

Okay further to this, the Seatlth bomber situation also happens on other sea vessels. Attacking a carrier produced the same thing, flying around it several times dropping bombs and then death. When I attacked a battleship they simply shot me right out of the sky first time. This isn't happening when the AI attacks my vessels with normal bombers and fighters. Its like the AI's ships are all immune to player air attack. They just bounce off and die.

 

[dshirk]

Okay further to this, the Seatlth bomber situation also happens on other sea vessels. Attacking a carrier produced the same thing, flying around it several times dropping bombs and then death. When I attacked a battleship they simply shot me right out of the sky first time. This isn't happening when the AI attacks my vessels with normal bombers and fighters. Its like the AI's ships are all immune to player air attack. They just bounce off and die.

Do you have saves for these situations? We would love to take a look. Thanks.

 

[Shockwolf]

Sure, I've uploaded a rar file to my dropbox here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4440020/Saves.rar

I've creatively named it BomberAndInfluenceBug.

I am currently at war with the Japs. If you go to Rio De Janeiro, which I've just conquered, you'll see the conflict. Rio De Janeiro has some Stealth Bombers in it. Try them out on the nearby Japanese subs and see what happens. It will happen on their ships too. However their planes have no problem attacking my vessels.

Then go to any City State and offer them gold, you'll see what I mean.

 

[Shockwolf]

Right, since I've been having issues with Stealth bombers, I started building run of the mill bombers to give them a try and so far, so good. No problems when I attacked a Battleship. This could be just a Stealth Bomber issue after all.

 

[Shockwolf]

I've just attacked an enemy Carrier with a vanilla Bomber this time and this issue occurred again. This the first time its happened with the old school bombers and first time against a Carrier.

Edit: Just tried it again with another of my bombers and the same happened.

 

[Mercade]

You mention no DLC, but would you also confirm that you're not using any mods?

 

[Shockwolf]

I can confirm that I am using no mods.

Though, I thought both expansion packs and mods were technically classed as DLC's? "Down Loadable Content"