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-2 features???

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by ZerrorR, Apr 8, 2006.

  1. ZerrorR

    ZerrorR Chieftain

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    I started a new game... duel map... 3 AIs
    I create my second town and it is ill??? -2 features on health :yuck:
    I will post the image on monday CET... any ideas why can this happen?
     
  2. MrCynical

    MrCynical Chieftain

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    It's perfectly possible for a city to be unhealthy from size one. Jungles and floodplains in a city radius both give unhealthiness, so if you have a lot of either it can lead to unhealthiness even in a size one city. This will be more common at higher difficulty levels since you have less of a cushion of health points at the start.
     
  3. Woodgar

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    Is that -2 in total or just a modifier of -2?

    You get a negative modifier if you have jungle or floodplains in your fat cross so maybe this is where the -2 modifier is coming from. I suppose it *could* be possible at the higher levels to get a -2 total health if you have so much jungle and/or floodplain that it swamps the starting health bonus, but I don't know what the starting health bonus is at the high levels and so I can't really say.
     
  4. ZerrorR

    ZerrorR Chieftain

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    ok
    flood plains: -1:yuck: - "you have floodplains"
    jungle: -1:yuck: - "you have jungle"
    ??????: -2:yuck: - "you have feature"

    ????
     
  5. MrCynical

    MrCynical Chieftain

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    Is it actually listing the source of the unhealthiness as "feature"? Floodplains and jungle can give more than one point of unhealthiness each (it's something like 0.4 per tile of floodplain and 0.25 per tile of jungle).
     
  6. Woodgar

    Woodgar Chieftain

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    Like MrCynical said, if you have multiple jungle or floodplain tiles in your fat cross it way say

    -2 :yuck: jungle
    -3 :yuck: floodplain

    rather than list them seperately.
     
  7. ZerrorR

    ZerrorR Chieftain

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    Yes... and it gives me a modifier of -2, as I said, I will post image on monday, city has, as I remmember, 3 flood plains and no jungle.
     
  8. Olleus

    Olleus Warlord

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    I guess you remember wrong
     
  9. Hans Lemurson

    Hans Lemurson Chieftain

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    Perhaps that last line is "-2:yuck: from terrain features". Sources of Health/unhealth are often sorted into different groups.

    If your total unhealthiness is -2:yuck:, then this is the most likely possibility.

    If your total unhealth is -4:yuck:, then I am stumped.
     
  10. ZerrorR

    ZerrorR Chieftain

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    here it is
    Civ4ScreenShot0000.JPG

    any ideas why???
     
  11. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    you have flood plains in the fat cross, and it's not listed, so "features" are terrain features, in this particular case, it's flood plains.

    Build a granary, and you'll be fine.
     
  12. KillerCardinal

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    If I remember correctly, each flood plain gives -0.4 health to your city. Since I count 5 flood plains, 5*0.4=2, so -2 health from features adds up correctly.
     
  13. VoiceOfUnreason

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    I wonder if it is confused because not all of the floodplains tiles are in your cultural borders....
     

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