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20 or 21 original gods

Discussion in 'Fall from Heaven Lore' started by Seventh Star, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Kael

    Kael Deity

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    Yeah, the big history doc thats in the mod makes a point of specifiying that the labels of good/neutral/evil are applied by men. In general the gods to fall into some camps (Nantosuelta and Sucellus are very close) and there is definitly a set of gods that agree with Agares that creation is a prison and they should retake (by force if nessesary) heaven to pursue their agenda. Now what that agenda would be differs from god to god.

    Mulcarn was said to have the highest hell, meaning he is the least evil of the evil gods and his hell the most hospitalable (assuming you packed your thermal underwear) and his purpose is largely unchanged from what it was. He gets hates humanity because they are such a powerful agent of change and chaos. So in mens eyes he is evil, and he does side with Agares. But he would be as likely to fight Bhall and Camulos as he would be to fight some of the non-evil gods.

    But the labeling of the gods of neutrality and good is a completly man made function. All of those gods would think that they are pursueing their divine purpose and wouldn't see any difference in the labels. the only real difference is some deal more directly with benifiting mankind and the others tasks really don't have much to do with humanity (Arawn being the best example). So from a divine perspective its better to say that their are only 2 groups of gods, those that have fallen and those that haven't.
     
  2. Maniac

    Maniac Apolyton Sage

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    Do angels have parents? :hmm:
     
  3. Kael

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    True angels are created by someone, but not by sexual reproduction.
     
  4. wilboman

    wilboman Hibernorse Frost Giant

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    Clay and spit, for example:D
     
  5. Maniac

    Maniac Apolyton Sage

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    That's what I figured. Which makes the concept of a 'twin' strange.

    Yeah, I'm probably applying too much logic here. :p
     
  6. Silverkiss

    Silverkiss NekoChan

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    Created at the same time, by the same person ;]
     
  7. Mailbox

    Mailbox King

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    Or from the same material.
     
  8. msb45

    msb45 Chieftain

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    on the subject of angels, why are basium and casiel portrayed without wings whereas all the others have wings (including hyborem and sabathiel)?
     
  9. Kael

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    Their features are just dependant on their creators whim. (Incidently Hyborem shouldn't really have wings, don't tell Ploep).
     
  10. Kjaaly

    Kjaaly Chieftain

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    No offense, but I REALLY couldn't imagine Cassiel with wings.

    Anyway, I'd still like a bit mroe detail on Nantosuelta, Ceridwen, and Oghma. I'm a bit confused about what they represent, what their roles in history has been (Well, no Ceridwens, that's for sure), and who they oppose.
     
  11. Ekolite

    Ekolite The Mighty Jungle

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    Yeah, until yesterday I didn't realise each god had their own aspect as well as sphere. If Mulcarn's is stasis and Bhaals is rapid change, what are the other god's aspects?
     
  12. Kael

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    Sphere and aspect are the same thing. Its just more complex than being about the fixed noun that we use for the sphere name. So Aeron's "body" sphere is more than just the physical flesh but symbolizes passion, lust, physical sensation, etc. Winter means hibernation, sleep, rest, stasis. And so on.

    Hopefully it makes some kind of sense, though it is sometimes difficult to draw out the characteristics of all the spheres.
     
  13. Cuteunit

    Cuteunit Danse Macabre

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    And sidar are supposed to lose those, but they have body mana?
     

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