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2020 US Election (Part Two)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lexicus, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. IglooDude

    IglooDude Enforcing Rule 34 Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Whoever makes a good target at that particular moment.
     
  2. Gori the Grey

    Gori the Grey The Poster

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    Never forget Obama and Hillary.

    Also, the deep state, China, Mexico, the do-nothing Democrats.

    The buck stops anywhere but with him.
     
  3. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    "The buck" never stops at all.
     
  4. Hrothbern

    Hrothbern Deity

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    yes ofc

    But some ad hominem and foreign "thems"... well

    But extending that deep state from the WH, where he BTW sits himself now, to the Governors etc is for me much more troubling because he challenges the Constitution.
     
  5. innonimatu

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    That is indeed the thing I'm thinking will undo him now.
     
  6. haroon

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    True, but there is a bigger chance that this may success. But if you, like you always constantly calling, after radical/fundamental change of the system this is the only way and the only momentum to do it.

    Btw are you after a status quo with establishment and calling the American to chose the lesser between two evil? A gradual turtle like change as you always resent? or are you after a meaningful systemic change like you always advocate? Because if you are after the later, I don't see why you should against this road to revolution.
     
  7. caketastydelish

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    Someone said this earlier, I forget who. I couldn't find the actual post (it's getting late, I'm tired now anyway).

    But someone basically said that Joe Biden right now is not that much different, in terms of personality and platform, to McCain in 2008. I was in high school then, I remember McCain.

    Can't really say I disagree. Trump is extremely far to the right, and Joe Biden is a moderate conservative. Bernie Sanders is a legit liberal/progressive, but he's not on the ticket. Not unless he decides to run as an independent, which I think he should.
     
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  8. Zardnaar

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    He can't win all he can do is split the vote.

    Even if he did somehow win he has a hostile Congress and can't pass anything.
     
  9. caketastydelish

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    Not if the masses of the people are on Bernies' side and they feel pressured to enact his policies.
     
  10. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    I think you are both mistaken here. One of Trump's nickames is Promise Keeper.

    The whole Durham investigation is about the deep state. The wall may be manpower, not steel, but it has worked and Mexico paid for it. Renegotiating trade agreements, deregulating, restocking the federal bench, tax reform, untangling from foreign wars, Iran, ISIS, the list goes on. Trump can claim a lot as not only accomplishments, but deliveries on promises. This is going to matter greatly when the campaign revs up in the fall, because Trump's support is loyal. It's not blindly loyal, though many make the claim, since Trump has delivered.

    You are not the first to think of McCain, but a better comp is Walter Mondale. Trump is doing his part by putting up a surprisingly good Ronald Reagan impression. There are obvious differences, primarily that Mondale was a much more impressive person than Biden and that Trump is more hated than Reagan.

    J
     
  11. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    No. Its not.
    Now this, I agree with, excepting the bolded.
     
  12. Farm Boy

    Farm Boy You gave me my own tail?

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    McCain also continued to evolve after he lost his presidential bid in 2008. Unfortunately, he wound up in the role that everyone hates, the one where he says we've been wrong on some issues and says we should change some of the things. The role that defends the basic humanity and decency of his political opponents. Republicans rewarded that message by electing an Assclown. Can't say I entirely blame them entirely, their other picks were uninspiring, but by all that is holy. Donald Trump. Gross. We'll see how the Democrats do. Still can't wrap my head around the last pick there, either. Just, damn.
     
  13. Gorbles

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    I think this needs to be framed and put in a sociology book related to the adverse affects of populism on the psyche.
     
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  14. Farm Boy

    Farm Boy You gave me my own tail?

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    I don't think Assclown rates the term populist in action and it surely can't apply to anyone who wins an election, but loses a popularity contest, against a harpy
     
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  15. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    Maybe not in your circles, but there are some where it is true.

    So, you think that Trump is doing a good RR impression is important. OK

    J
     
  16. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    I'd rate it not bad. Good form on "Sanity Slipping" and "Racist" categories.
     
  17. Zardnaar

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    Masses aren't with him. About 1 in 3 people who voted in Democrat primaries.

    That's not 1 in 3 Americans or even one in three people likely to vote Democrat.

    15% of the vote at best and that's wildly optimistic taking the 1 in 3 and applying it to the 48% or so that tend to vote Democrat.

    1in 6 Americans at best. Most of whom live in the wrong location to win a US election.
     
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  19. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    Huh? "important"? Where did I say that? Sheesh, I very simply, very straightforwardly, flat-out agree with a statement you make... and you still try to intentionally misinterpret what I've said. Why was that even necessary dude? I agreed with you for crissakes... SMFH:shake:
     
  20. Birdjaguar

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    Peggy Noonan Calls for Trump to Step down

    [Peggy Noonan is a conservative columnist for the WSJ]

    tldr: He should give an Oval Office address announcing he’s leaving: “America, you don’t deserve me.” Truer words have never been spoken in that old place. And he won’t be outshone by his successor. Network producers will listen to Mike Pence once and say, “Let’s do ‘Shark Week.’ ” But you know, America could use a shark week.
     

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