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2020 US Election (Part Two)

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lexicus, Mar 11, 2020.

  1. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Quad B

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    We have arrived at the point where the total banana republic outcome of the military removing D'ump from office on Jan 20th and establishing an acting government pending elections seems plausible. The strange part is that I have sufficient confidence in the US military to actually see this as a positive outcome. I believe they would hold power just long enough to hold the postponed election then step aside. Whether the country could ever recover is a question.
     
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  2. Takhisis

    Takhisis Free Hong Kong

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    Never believe something in politics until it's officially denied. ;)
     
  3. Hrothbern

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    If it comes to that scenario... yes... why would the army trouble itself with the hassle to keep on ruling ?
    They are sitting in a comfortable chair in terms of money and peoples support. Restoring that status quo after a minor disruption the most sound way forward.


    I wonder
    When are the rats going to flee from the sinking Trump ship ?

    There is still time for Trump to rebound... but the perspective is bad for him... the door closing

    What is the optimal self preservation strategy for individual GOP politicians and the GOP as a whole ?

    when ?
    how ?
     
  4. Zardnaar

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    They're stuck with him until after the election.

    If Fox news Turns on Trump it's because the Murdoch's and co are cutting their losses. At that point or leading up to it will be when.

    If he losses there's that dead duck period between November and January.
     
  5. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    *lame duck*, but yes. That's when all hell will break loose. Don Jr., is already "joking" that they should replace removed statues with statues of his father. For all we know, they're floating the idea to see what the reaction will be.
     
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  6. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Quad B

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    Fox News has no motive to turn on Trump to cut losses. Their objective is to keep a rock solid grip on the Trumpist audience. Trump is very likely to have his own show once he leaves office.
     
  7. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    Unless the SDNY puts him in jail, yes...

    Show title:
    "Who wants to be a President of the United States"
    "America's Next Top Elected Official"
    "Keeping up with Ivanka's election campaign"
     
  8. Commodore

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    I don't know, they might be turning on him a bit already
    A few days ago an opinion piece from Fox News popped up in my news feed that suggested Trump should drop out of the race because his polling numbers are getting so bad.
     
  9. rah

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    While it looks promising, let's not forget that most people thought Hillary was a slam dunk.
    There's still plenty of time before the election for things to change.

    I would like the dems in the house agree to put limits on mail in ballots but only if they expand the election over multiple days to make it safer. This, just to force the senate to vote against it or have to ignore it.
     
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  10. Birdjaguar

    Birdjaguar Hanafubuki Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Fox News has raised the issue "What if Trumps decides not to run?" He might well choose not to run rather than lose badly. I certainly can see him choose that.

    "You don't love me any more!" Wah wah wah.... If he doesn't run, he can't lose. It might well create other issues for him, but I'm sure he thinks he can deal with those.
     
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  11. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-bidens-polling-lead-is-different-from-clintons-in-2016/
     
  12. Takhisis

    Takhisis Free Hong Kong

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    Owen was almost killed by the shock of ‘Donald Trump Presidential Library’ being an actual possible, if not probable, future and he's been posting less and less since then. Do you want to drive even more intellectuals hence?
     
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  13. innonimatu

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    Biden is a terrible candidate, in a normal year he'd be torn to pieces. But is is not a normal year, government incompetence in dealing with the virus is so bad that I think now Trump has already gone over the point of no return. He could have save himself playing the "gift of healthcare card" (taking over the medicare for all thing) but he seems too incompetent to know how to do that. And what healthcare there is is failing anyway.
    If the democrats manage to keep Biden hidden away they win by default.
     
  14. Patine

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    Yes, he's certainly not astronomically comparable to Bismarck offering a welfare system in Germany to undercut the rising electoral power of the early SPD in the big industrial cities, in this way...
     
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  15. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    It would be more accurate to say that Obama paid for it and Trump refuses.

    This year too.

    I don't know how much longer they can string the COVID-19 crisis. Even the resurge is more of a whimper, with no matching surge in hospitalizations. In four weeks we should see baseball and NFL in the fall. Add the already appearing signs of economic recovery and it looks good for Trump and the Republicans.

    That didn't work for Hillary and she was much better situated. She could even string a sentence together without a teleprompter.

    J
     
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  16. Timsup2nothin

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    As much as this reality sux, I am so glad I don't live in J's.
     
  17. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd Rest in Peace Black Panther

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    It does give you some insight into why states like Texas and Florida are pushing ahead with reopening plans in the face of record-level coronavirus cases and spiking hospitalizations. The Trump supporters simply don't believe that its happening and they refuse to be persuaded otherwise. That's all there is to it.

    A physician family member shared an example with me, of a recent patient of a colleague, a child who tested positive for coronavirus. When the doctor informed the parents of the positive test, the parents flat-out denied that the test was accurate, denied that their child had coronavirus and refused to believe anything else the doctor said. That's a perfect snapshot of where we are.
     
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  18. cardgame

    cardgame Obsessively Opposed to the Typical

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    What is to be done?
     
  19. IglooDude

    IglooDude Enforcing Rule 34 Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Perhaps reference a recent and similar (though far less impactful) issue, which is the anti-vaxxer drama? How are we getting people who refuse to stick needles in their children for the greater public good (as well as their own, natch) to ignore conspiracy-theory "facts" and actually get them vaccinated?
     
  20. Hrothbern

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    Apply liability at the individual level.

    As I unerstand it this is the consequence of a smaller state influence.

    Either you think mainly from out the individual level with a minimal state mainly delivering Laws... in that case as individual your defence is to get at least the damage compensated from another individual causing that damage.

    orprevent hundereds of thousands law cases and

    The state takes over the risk mitigation on for example contagious risks and to avoid as state paying all damaged citizens and families penalties or social security-healthcare money, the state limits the freedom of citizens regarding infecting other citizens. Meaning enforced socialdistance, enforced vaccination.

    The ability of a state AND its people to handle grey zones and going freedom the one area of living and going law enforcement the other area of living determines succes and happiness of the people.

    If there is little consistecy between that all.....

    I can repeat your question: what is to be done ?

    Pray ? Accept your fate ? Ignore it and burry everything around it under six feet ?
     
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