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2020 US Election

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lexicus, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. Imaus

    Imaus Chieftain

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    Biden's being smacked with a video, about him and Cheney back in the day.

    It's not a stick of dynamite, just a chip off the statue, but it might add up if more of his centrist-hoo-hum Post-Clinton stuff gets focused on.
     
  2. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    Old people always vote. The Democrats win or lose on the basis of whether or not the candidate(s) can convince young voters and minorities to come out and vote at an above-average margin.
     
  3. AdrienIer

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    Sure, but there's probably an argument to be made that Biden might get some old people to vote for him that might otherwise vote Trump. The kind of people that, while conservative-ish, don't like Trump's personality and find comfort in Biden's old school democrat style. I imagine that some people are stuck in the political mainstream of the 80s, which Biden probably belongs in.
     
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  4. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    He’s just like Ben Wyatt...if Ben Wyatt studied at Harvard and Cambridge and worked for Democratic think tanks...so not at all like Ben Wyatt!
     
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  5. AdrienIer

    AdrienIer Chieftain

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    Knope/Wyatt 2020
     
  6. Berzerker

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    Sanders is going after Biden on trade, he's trying to dismantle Biden's image of a blue collar hero

    I wont be voting for either of them, will you? You wont be laughing then, you'll be too busy holding your nose. I've already named a few Democrats I could support, Biden aint one of them. Btw, you messed up the quote from Tim, he was talking about J there and I was trashing Biden before Tim accused me of having a reason to oppose Biden so your revelation aint so revelatory.

    I dont think we agree on what sneering means, he gives free neck massages
     
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  7. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    As if I needed another reason to dislike him.....
     
  8. Zkribbler

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    :eek2: Uhhh...

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts
     
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  9. Berzerker

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    Why dont businesses lobby for single payer? I cant imagine having to pay for insurance helps them compete.
     
  10. Birdjaguar

    Birdjaguar Entangled Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Several:
    • Health benefits differentiate one business from another and can attract employees
    • "And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of?"
    • Senior managers have great plans under the current system
    • Other issues are more important
     
  11. rah

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    and who do you think will end up paying for part of it? I'm sure the Gov. will figure out a way for them to pay a good chunk.
     
  12. Berzerker

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    thats true, if they end up paying more in taxes and eat up the savings then why not just offer health care to attract better employees like BD says. I dont think we should tax businesses other than maybe user fees.
     
  13. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    I just cant get over his name... It just looks ridiculous and made up.

    Then... looking at the name trying to figure out how to pronounce it.. "What does that say? Butt-guy? Is that seriously his name?"
     
  14. El_Machinae

    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    It's hard watching the discussion about block grants. It's kinda how it works in Canada, where Health Canada sets minimum standards and the provinces actually administer it.
     
  15. Berzerker

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    Peter Buttsomething

    that would be tough to live with for a straight guy

    I just saw CNN polls of registered voters showing several Democrats are beating Trump, Beto had the largest margin (52-42), Biden (51-45), Harris (49-45), Warren was the only one without a lead (47-48)
     
  16. cardgame

    cardgame Sensual Kitten

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    take a look at the raw data to make sure, CNN lies
     
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  17. Berzerker

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    it does seem strange Biden would be whooping Beto among Democrats but still have a tighter race with Trump

    could mean Beto's more popular than Biden outside the party

    edit, course Biden and Beto are getting mostly the same votes so it aint like support for either is exclusive to them
     
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  18. Sommerswerd

    Sommerswerd I never yielded

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    My thoughts exactly
    ugh... here we go again...

    If Biden gets anointed as the establishment/media darling (he is), it's only gonna make this situation worse.

    What the Democrats need is either... 1) Someone who emotes "safe" enough to retain some older and/or fence voters while being "new" enough to excite the young and/or more progressive voters... ;or 2) A rockstar that drives the young, liberal, progressive and/or typically ambivalent to the polls in record numbers.

    Gavin Newsom would have been 1... I thought Gabbard, Harris, Beto or Warren might've been 2... but I've been disappointed on both counts.

    Is it too late for another candidate to enter the race?
     
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  19. Zkribbler

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    :sarcasm:

    It's so annoying when the majority of voters take it upon themselves to anoint their candidate. :trophy:
     
  20. cardgame

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    They haven't, though. This is just straight up manufacturing consent and name recognition aka celebrity
     
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