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1%ers, well known for their progressive wokeness! Can't imagine anything more woke than bankrolling right-wing politicians!
 
Look for the Teslas?
 
For the better, considering what crap they are.
 
Yeah can you please answer that property question I gave you some days ago regarding how capitalism is not markets? It will be difficult for any of to abandon capitalism unless you enlighten us.
I think the reverse would be required actually, why do you think capitalism = markets? Do you think trade did not exist until capitalism came about?
 
Ok. Now I see. Marxist. nuh-huh. 'nuff said.
Propaganda and purple kool-aid.

It ain't *just* the 'capitalist' stealing. It's the progressive elites ad nauseum.

Oh well, the next 4 years are gonna be fun as hell to watch.
(and yep, I stocked up on popcorn)

(I just hope we send that moron in Ottawa packing next year. The sooner the better)
the propaganda you take in has been set in so deeply in your mind that you think if someone has read marx and thiinks he might have som epoints (especially his most basic points)is a "Marxist". You cannot tell me what a Marxist is much less throw the label around.

progressive elites are capitalists...you have no idea what you are on about.
 
SCOTUS is cool with taxing wealth acquisition through wage serfdom, but not cool with taxing wealth acquisition through exploiting wage serfs.

sigh.

The who now?

The dipsticks in Ottawa for a start.

1%ers, well known for their progressive wokeness! Can't imagine anything more woke than bankrolling right-wing politicians!

sigh.

the propaganda you take in has been set in so deeply in your mind that you think if someone has read marx and thiinks he might have som epoints (especially his most basic points)is a "Marxist". You cannot tell me what a Marxist is much less throw the label around.

progressive elites are capitalists...you have no idea what you are on about.

*I'm* throwing labels around? Oh dear. What groups have been calling their opponents fascist, racist, nazis etc? hmm?
(it was watching people doing that, that got me to pipe up)

"Progressive ELITES" are idiots. (ok, OURS are, YMMV)

I'm not going to debate Marx, Marxism etc with you. Others have been both far more eloquent and been more profane about his ideas and works (as well as results of trying his ideology) than I could be.

I used be be artillery. We don't do "subtle". :D


Ok, playtime is over. It's been fun. hee-hee.
 
Technically, taxation IS theft. However, it is needed. (how MUCH though, that be the question. As little as possible IMHO)
Seem we have different definitions of things. So I'm just gonna drop it.
It seems you have different definitions from those which actually exists, and you are unable to register the inherent self-contradictions in your reasoning.
To be blunt, it seems you're just repeating mindlessly some mantras without understanding either what they actually mean, nor what they imply.
You should spend some time actually thinking on it.
 
*I'm* throwing labels around? Oh dear. What groups have been calling their opponents fascist, racist, nazis etc? hmm?
(it was watching people doing that, that got me to pipe up)
Yes, you are calling people things you cannot describe accurately.

Fascism, Racism, and Nazis have all become more prevalent, more vocal, and more popular in my lifetime, because people like you have been so brainwashed into believing that fascism, racism, and repression is the norm, and that norm should be maintained.
 
People who can think and breath at the same time.

Breath yes. Think? <giggle> I call'em the Loony Left myself. That's the polite term.


It seems you have different definitions from those which actually exists, and you are unable to register the inherent self-contradictions in your reasoning.
To be blunt, it seems you're just repeating mindlessly some mantras without understanding either what they actually mean, nor what they imply.
You should spend some time actually thinking on it.

Actually, that's pretty much what I think about your position and reasoning.
Hence, I'm dropping it.


The who now?

None of this is specific or relevant enough to be useful.

The progressive elite dipsticks in Ottawa that are currently in charge of country.
(the only part about running it, is they are hell bent on running it into the ground)
 
Yes, you are calling people things you cannot describe accurately.

Fascism, Racism, and Nazis have all become more prevalent, more vocal, and more popular in my lifetime, because people like you have been so brainwashed into believing that fascism, racism, and repression is the norm, and that norm should be maintained.

You really, really have no idea what you are talking about.
The left is the one throwing those labels about willy nilly to anyone who does not agree 100% with their views.
Not the right.

yeah, we're about done here.
 
The progressive elite dipsticks in Ottawa that are currently in charge of country.
(the only part about running it, is they are hell bent on running it into the ground)
I wasn't aware the NDP were running Ottawa, or Canada as a whole.
The left is the one throwing those labels about willy nilly to anyone who does not agree 100% with their views.
Labels like "progressive elite dipsticks"? ;)
 
Moderator Action: Keep it civil please!
 
Even if there is a former president or candidate who commits sexual assault or various crimes
Those guys won't be charged.
This is to prevent the president in power controlling elections by falsely accusing his rivals.
Even if Trump does, this behavior is obviously an abuse of power by the government.
Trump has falsely accused his rivals of voter fraud in 2024 and 2020. This is an indisputable fact
But I don't think he has.
Purely my personal opinion.
Because these candidate of president are (usually) very careful
Even if they are not careful, their staff will be careful.
Trump literally added RFK Jr. as the head of the Department of Health and Human Services, which I'd expect to come from an Onion article but no it's actually gonna happen.
Accusing Trump of sexual assault is as unreasonable as Republicans accusing Biden of being a sexual assault criminal.
26 women have accused him of assault. Trump has also had close ties with Jeffery Epstein and Sean "Diddy" Combs.
But I don't see those republicans and Trump voter is going to hate those transgender.
Yes they do. If I were to come out as trans to people in my state (a Republican state fyi) I'd probably be beaten within the first five minutes. Heck I might even be killed.

Look at Nex Benedict from the state of Oklahoma. Nex was a nonbinary kid from Oklahoma who died due to injuries from being beaten by a bunch of transphobes. Their death wouldn't have happened if Nex lived in a blue state.
I can't understand why you think this is reasonable.
Because people's rights and freedoms are important to me. (Also note I'm trans)
I will begin to understand why Americans like the slogan "America First"... actually I was though it just a meaningless gimmick.
"America First" is about foreign policy and it has notably been tied to fascism.
Let me make it clear that money should be given to those who “need” it, not to those who “want" it

Gender transition is obviously not a "need", but closer to a "luxury".
Gender transition is basically a need for trans people. Note that suicide rates were lower for trans people who have transitioned than those who have not
If the Democratic Party has such a mentality like this and would rather provide transgender subsidized services than give that money to the poor...
The poor will only think that those Democrats are playing the game of the rich and treat them as abandoned fools.
But maybe Americans are much richer than I thought, so maybe being poor isn't really that painful.
After all, I have only experienced my own poverty, not American poverty.
But I don’t think it’s okay to spend money in this way, although it’s not a lot of money.
The Republican party has Elon Musk as one of its leaders, and Elon is known for being a rich snob (who didn't even make Tesla) and one of the wealthiest men on the planet.
Donald Trump is a billionaire.
Compare that with Kamala who has about 8 million USD, which is also above average in the United States but not as much as Trump or his cronies.

Also note that Democratic president Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the first person to come up with the "Second Bill of Rights" that the Democratic Party to this day has had as a staple of their economic plans, and FDR's second bill of rights was:
- Right to employment
- Right to food, shelter, and recreation
- Right to fair income
- Right to stand up against monopolies and unfair competition
- Right to education
- Right to social security
- Right to decent housing
- Right to medical care
And I heard all what actually Trump wants, all the nonsense this guy talks is basically a "talking skill"
to intimidate those allies pay the money,
to drop the Taiwan financial market and let the money go back to US
those China and India didn't go to comply with the climate agreement...
something like that.
I don't know how many people in US noticed that "talking skill" of it
but actually other country use "talking skill" too, just they talk much beautiful than Trump and it is difficult to know they are intimidate their allies and playing tricks too.
Trump's a well known hypocrite. The whole Springfield, Ohio story isn't even correct in any way at all. He's just another populist in the history of America, next to Jackson and Long.
 
Breath yes. Think? <giggle> I call'em the Loony Left myself. That's the polite term.
Correctly identifying people who openly state their preference for nationalism and authoritarianism is stupid and crazy? Gotcha.
Labels like "progressive elite dipsticks"? ;)
No you see, it's only bad when the left does it!
 
Breath yes. Think? <giggle> I call'em the Loony Left myself. That's the polite term.
I always find it funny when people call state intervention and a national industrial policy to be "Marxism" or "Loony Left"; it would be of great surprise to that *checks notes* famous leftist Charles de Gaulle.
Heck, the whole reason Canada gets to pretend to be a country instead of being America's Hat is because the Canadian government conciously took an interventionist policy to protect and develop Canadian industries.
(For example, the Canadian Wheat Board, the Canadian National Railway, government investment to subsidize a fleet of modern grain hoppers to facilitate grain exports.)
 
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