20k win strategy on Regent level (without leaders)

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  1. Aiken_Drumn

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    First Comment.. with the city being your Capital.. is there any point to built bolded above?
     
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    Rushing question here.

    I nearly always "buy" a worker, or other cheap unit, then the actual thing I need on the same turn. I don't wait a turn. I hadn't considered disbanding a unit, that seems pretty swell. Can we agree either is better than waiting a turn to generate some shields and lower the cost?
     
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    Any: Yes.

    Any reasonable: No.
     
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    How would either buildings function in your capitol? Can Capitols even experience corruption?
     
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    Not necessarily.

    In order to disband a unit you first need to generate the shields for the unit you are going to disband. That is easily when having more than 20 cities, but not so easy if you play a one city challange.

    Using a cheap worker can work well if you have the needed gold, but you need to have it first. Having to pay 80 gold instead of 40 gold for 10 shields is still a net disadvantage of 40 gold. And if instead you produce the 10 shields by regular means it is still better in terms of gold.

    There is a fourth alternative: Gain 10 shields from chopping forest. But those need to be timed well. It may not work well in terms of avoiding 2 turns per building. Still it can work well in other relevant terms.
     
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    Except in anarchy: No.

    Even in communism the capital is always free of corrruption. In other words: There will be no reduction in corruption.

    But a police station can still reduce war weariness by 25 percentage points. That makes war as a republic much more comfortable as the first level of war weariness is completely offset.

    The courthouse helps against propaganda. I have never seen that matter in a capital, though.
     
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    Yeah I don't intend to do 1 city challenge, I still want a small Empire to defend myself with and to claim key resources. I am sure there will be time to squeeze out a settler at some point.
     
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    I think the original poster was discussing vanilla, not Conquests (due to no discussion of Statue of Zeus and not prioritizing Shakespeare's Theater for the grow-past-12 benefit in Conquests). In vanilla and PTW, the capital is subject to corruption and waste, sometimes enough that a courthouse is helpful.
     
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    Ah thanks.

    Is there a C3C thread out there? I just tried this challenge, and while having a clear lead, the game has played out so slowly I am going to have to pivot to Space for any chance of even winning my game :/

    It would be good to have a more comprehensive guide.. Even if the biggest challenge is how many times you are willing to reroll your start....
     
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    That is part of the challenge 20k. If your goal is to achieve this victory condition, then playing it as an OCC seems like the best bet. You want to grab as much culture from ancient wonders as reasonably possible as well as from the medieval era of course. Once you have Shakespeare the date when victory will be achieved is mostly set, but it may still take 200 more turns. Given that you might not be inclined to manage more than one city.
     
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    Actually, the starting position is less important than getting a scientific great leader for the first tech, so you can rush the pyramids (or something else, but usually the pyramids). So, the challenge is how many times you are willing to reroll and replay the first 15 or so turns, if you are trying for a really fast 20k. If you aren't trying for a record-breaking date, you can win 20k from basically any start, though (at least, at levels where you can win reasonably comfortably in other ways). My single win on Sid is 20k, and that required a lot of restarts, but mostly to get myself alone on an island so I wasn't stomped immediately, not to get a great city spot. I could not have one that game any other way.
     

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