(27) Proposal: First Great Prophet always spawns in the capital

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Stalker0

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Currently the first GP spawns in your city with the highest faith output. The change here is to have the first GP always spawn in your capital.

Rationale: There are three main reasons to do this.

1) Many beliefs work their best when in the capital. The simple fact is, 95% of the time, I want my holy city in the capital. So this means I either take a lesser benefit, or I lose turns moving my GP into my capital, which in tight religion races could mean not founding.

2) The capital is very hard to convert. Most of the time, your capital will take 2 missionary charges to convert, as opposed to the normal 1 for your other satellites. This is a BIG difference in that early game when all of those little things matter, it means that your religion spreads slower, which slows down your snowball.

3) Even in the rare times I actually want my holy city in a satellite, its rare that the one with the highest faith is the one I want to spawn in either, as often its more about position than it is faith. The capital at least tends to be a more centralized place in your civ, so I can send my GP to that satellite more easily should I want to. Contrast this to a spawn in a satellite, and then sending the GP all the way across the empire.


All told, the benefits of this change far outweigh the once in a blue moon times I would want a GP in a different city.
 

rkkn

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yeah, currently I do everything I can to adjust faith output so that prophet spawns in capital. sadly, it's not always adjustable
one time I had the belief I wanted taken while my prophet was en route moving to the capital. that was really annoying
 

azum4roll

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Yes, it'll help the AI a lot. Currently they can even lose their holy city to revolts if they get unhappy enough.
 

zeofig

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Yep. Sometimes it can be fun to have it in another city, but usually it's more like "oh god(s) why"
 

frktest

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Not good for me, Usually I try to specialise different cities, Capital for World Wonders, a second city as Holy city, in a third I place Science NWonders and Academies and so on. That may not ever be rationale but for me VP gameplay is not only a matter of math calculations. So I like first GP spawns as is now
 

CppMaster

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Not good for me, Usually I try to specialise different cities, Capital for World Wonders, a second city as Holy city, in a third I place Science NWonders and Academies and so on. That may not ever be rationale but for me VP gameplay is not only a matter of math calculations. So I like first GP spawns as is now
Then it's better to have capital as holy city, so you build holy wonders there.
 

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