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(2R) Ratification Option: Let the bonus healing from Benevolence and Khan's ability stack with the healing of Medic from an allied unit.

Legen

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Ratification Option for https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/1-09-proposal-remove-malus-from-healing-promotion.679956/

This is a proposal that wasn't sponsored last month. Related posts:

- https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...nce-virtue-from-japans-dojo-promotion.679410/
- https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-healing-of-medic-from-an-allied-unit.679447/


Proposal:

The bonus healing from Benevolence (one of the eight possible virtues from Dojo's promotion) and from the Khan now stack with the bonus healing from of Medic from an allied unit.

Rationale:

At the moment, the bonus healing from both Benevolence and Khan's ability don't stack with the bonus healing of an ally with Medic. Instead, the highest bonus healing between the two units will apply. For instance:
  • A wounded unit is near a Samurai with Benevolence only (+5 bonus healing), and a unit with Medic I (also +5 bonus healing). The wounded unit will heal an extra +5 HP, as if the Benevolence Samurai wasn't there.
    • Same as above, but with Medic II instead of Medic I. The wounded unit will heal an extra +10 HP, also as if the Benevolence Samurai wasn't there.
  • A wounded unit is near a Khan (+10 bonus healing) and a unit with Medic I (+5 bonus healing). The wounded unit will heal an extra +10 HP.
    • Same as above, but with Medic II instead (+10 bonus healing). The wounded unit will heal an extra +10 HP, as if the Khan wasn't there.
This interaction means that both Benevolence and Khan's ability can be rendered redundant by a unit with Medic. Since Medic units are a common addition to any army, these two uniques can become useless quite frequently. This proposal intents to ensure they remain relevant, and a proper addition to their respective civ's kit.
 
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nekokon

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If this was proposed but not sponsored, you're better asking around for dev who's willing to take on this change rather than propose it again just to get ignored/shot down again.
 

crdvis16

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FYI- I believe the Protection pantheon "extra healing in friendly territory" does stack with Medic I/II. So it makes sense that these should too.
 

besset

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If you want to nerf the chancery and make it more intuitive to the user, you might consider going with +1 gold for friend, +1 prod for ally (and both conditions stack).
Yeah and wire services could be +1 science for friend and +1 culture per ally, both stacking
 

axatin

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I can sponsor it this time. But I agree with @nekokon that usually proposals that had not been sponsored in the previous session shouldn't just be submitted again. Next time, better ask the developers on discord if anyone could sponsor it or what amendments could be made to the proposal to make it easier to implement.
 

Recursive

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Proposal sponsored by axatin.
 

Recursive

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But I agree with @nekokon that usually proposals that had not been sponsored in the previous session shouldn't just be submitted again. Next time, better ask the developers on discord if anyone could sponsor it or what amendments could be made to the proposal to make it easier to implement.
I will note that this is optional, not mandatory - but advisable.
 
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