3.13 - Bizarre declaration of war, and culture error

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In a new game with 3.13, I destroyed the Russians very early. When, some time after, another civ (Suleiman) made contact with me, he declared war instantly - before the normal first contact diplomacy panel opened. He also created a colony on the same turn, which of course declared war on me immediately. The really bizarre bit is that all the cities that used to belong to Russia suddenly devolped huge amounts of culture attributed to this new colony, and hence suddenly got huge unhappiness penalties for yearning to join the motherland. This is despite the fact that this is a colony which has only begun to exist this turn, and they have never belonged to (and isn't anywhere near them either). The sudden appearance of four or five unhappiness per city in the early game, for no logical reason, rather messes up the game. Therefore bugs;

1)Culture from a destroyed civ was wrongly attributed to a newly created foreign colony

2)A civ declared war before the first contact panel opened (though they did go through the normal "let there be peace in our time, peace is the way" routine, with no effect on the fact we were at war.

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I was just going to post the same problem. I am getting Egyptian culture in my former Indian cities that I captured.... strange! I wondered if it could be espionage, but I have not seen a single caraval near my continent and Egypt is one of the smallest civs all the way on another land mass. I guess they must be a new colony created from another civ, I'm not sure, because they suddenly appeared recently.
 

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It is not really "fixed": You need to install an unofficial patch 3.13.
It means that you need to choose between the full official patch 3.13, and a patch done beforehand by a (talented) modder.
If you "fix" a part, you "unfix" something else...
Difficult choice...
Actually it is a fix of the 3.13 patch, so it is not done beforehand.
While Solver took the 3.03 patch and patched that, Bhruic is doing the same for 3.13 so you do not "unfix" anything that was fixed in 3.13 by first patching to 3.13 and then installing Bhruic's unofficial patch :)
 
Impressive.
I am afraid some modders have very little nigths for making a patch of the patch after so little time. They need to identify first was is (still) wrong before making any fix, and this takes time...
So then the choice seems to be different, if we go for the patch of the patch, we must be ready to have (perhaps) new bugs introduced. But is not it the name of the game and the reason why multiple patch version exist (and 3.13 is certainly not the last one !...)
 
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