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Spoiler Babylon's UA :
Receive a Free Great Scientist when you discover Writing, and Great Scientists are earned 50% faster than normal. Investing
Gold in Buildings reduces their
Production cost by and additional 15%.


Spoiler Babylon's UB, with its unique traits underlined :
Cost: 110 
Maintenance: -1
Defense: +8
+150 HP (from +6
+125 HP)
Science: 1
1
scientist slot
Military Units supplied by population in this city increased by 10%.
Increases Ranged Strike Range by 1.
Scientists in this city generate +2
Gold.

Maintenance: -1

Defense: +8


Science: 1

1

Military Units supplied by population in this city increased by 10%.
Increases Ranged Strike Range by 1.
Scientists in this city generate +2

Proposal:
- Walls of Babylon's scientist slot replaced with the following benefits:
- Base
science increased from 1
to 4
- Base +3
Great Scientist Points
- Base
- Walls of Babylon's no longer adds
gold to scientists. Instead, it gains the following benefits:
- "Great Scientists provide 10% more
Science when used to discover new Technology"
- "No maintenance cost"
- "Great Scientists provide 10% more
Spoiler Walls of Babylon, with the proposed changes in italics :
Cost: 110 
No maintenance cost
Defense: +8
+150 HP (from +6
+125 HP)
Science: 4
+3
Great Scientist Points
Military Units supplied by population in this city increased by 10%.
Increases Ranged Strike Range by 1.
Great Scientists provide 10% more
Science when used to discover new Technology

No maintenance cost
Defense: +8


Science: 4

+3

Military Units supplied by population in this city increased by 10%.
Increases Ranged Strike Range by 1.
Great Scientists provide 10% more

Rationale:
From pineappledan's suggestion, this proposal tries to alleviate Babylon's massive dependence on



Babylon has lost some flexibility since around 2018, after a series of general nerfs to specialists made it harder to work them, especially in the earlier eras. The


The idea of replacing the scientist slot was suggested back then, and recently once again, to address it without breaking the civ's early Great Scientist generation. The main merit is that the civ can break away from its current massive






The replacement of the "+2


The maintenance cost removal is meant to preserve some of Babylon's ability to invest during the early game, after the loss of gold on scientists. It is not expected to have a major impact in the midgame, it is only to maintain the viability of the UA's investment bonus early on.
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