542435 Points on Warlord Writeup

[A_Turkish_Guy]

thanks for the link

 

[Methos]

@A Turkish Guy: How many turns can you explore with the settler before you need to settle? I attempted this and lost to a conquest victory after a while (duel size map with one opponent). I assume you have to settle within so many turns if you only have one other opponent. Thanks.

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

@A Turkish Guy: How many turns can you explore with the settler before you need to settle? I attempted this and lost to a conquest victory after a while (duel size map with one opponent). I assume you have to settle within so many turns if you only have one other opponent. Thanks.

i think small maps are not very good for exploring.maps bigger than standart is good for exploring.small maps are not big enough to waste your turns.
if you ask it for bigger maps i never explore more than 20 turns.before 10 turns you can get a worker,scout or settler.if not just start another map. .

 

[Moonsinger]

Since now you have to start with a minimum 10 AI civs, the chance for finding extra goodie from the huts is some what reduced. IMO, you probably won't be able to score this much any more.

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

Since now you have to start with a minimum 10 AI civs, the chance for finding extra goodie from the huts is some what reduced. IMO, you probably won't be able to score this much any more.

i think it is true.and map size is the same but domination limit is low.(%55 i think). .that means it will be 400K .maybe i can find another way to develop the tactics. .

 

[Dianthus]

i think it is true.and map size is the same but domination limit is low.(%55 i think). .that means it will be 400K .maybe i can find another way to develop the tactics. .

You can increase the domination limit by killing off your opponents. Once you're down to 1 opponent you'll have the same domination limit as if you had only one opponent when you started the game!

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

You can increase the domination limit by killing off your opponents. Once you're down to 1 opponent you'll have the same domination limit as if you had only one opponent when you started the game!

the same ?

i ve never seen it before in my games.i started dom limit at %64 and finished %64.i killed 5 guys and nothing changed.are you sure about that??? .

 

[Dianthus]

the same ?

i ve never seen it before in my games.i started dom limit at %64 and finished %64.i killed 5 guys and nothing changed.are you sure about that??? .

Absolutely certain. For every opponent killed the limit will increase until it reaches a maximum. Maybe for the games you played previously it was already at the maximum?

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

it was already at the maximum?

i think it is the reason.thanks anyway.

and i have another question .after the HoF mod my computer is getting too slow.i dont understand it.at the beginning i thougt it was the opponenet number but it is the same with every map.do you have any ideas about that?

 

[Dianthus]

and i have another question .after the HoF mod my computer is getting too slow.i dont understand it.at the beginning i thougt it was the opponenet number but it is the same with every map.do you have any ideas about that?

Have you turned on logging? If so that could be the reason, logging slows things down quite a bit.

 

[Moonsinger]

maybe i can find another way to develop the tactics. .

Good luck! There is really not many new ways to skin the same old fish, but we don't know unless we try.

 

[Denniz]

and i have another question .after the HoF mod my computer is getting too slow.i dont understand it.at the beginning i thougt it was the opponenet number but it is the same with every map.do you have any ideas about that?

A bunch of questions:

Does start out slower or does it get slower as you go?
Which HOF options do you have enabled?
Which HOF options do you use the most? How often?
Have you installed any new software, updates, drivers, etc. recently.
Dianthus asked about logging, what virus scanner do you use?

The only way to figure out if something is slowing you down, either the HOF Mod or something interacting or competing with it, is to isolate things until you find something that makes a difference.

For the mod, I would suggest trying a game without the mod. Any diffence? No, then it is probably not the mod. If yes, then try disabling all the HOF options. Stop the game. Play awhile. Any difference? Turn on an option. Stop/restart/play. Any difference? Change to another HOF option. Stop/restart/play. Any difference? You get the idea... If necessary, try combinations of options next.

The main thing is to change only one thing at a time, so you know if it made a difference. Stop the game between changes so you know you have a clean start.

Without some kind of pattern or repeatable behavior, it is very difficult to find a bug or other issue.

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

Have you turned on logging? .

no..

Which HOF options do you have enabled?.

none

Have you installed any new software, updates, drivers, etc. recently?.

no.

what virus scanner do you use?

i dont use virus scanner.

Stop the game. Play awhile. Any difference? Turn on an option. Stop/restart/play. Any difference? .......

i ll try these.

@Dianthus
i think the domination limit thing is not true.i tried it with worldbuilder and my domination limit didnt change.i use 10 opponenets and razed 4 of them and my limit was still %56..

are you sure about that.did you try it before.or did i make mistake???

 

[oligod]

this score his hallucinating! youve done your homework
great

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

this score his hallucinating! youve done your homework
great

thanks

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

Since now you have to start with a minimum 10 AI civs, the chance for finding extra goodie from the huts is some what reduced. .

i think it is not true .my first settler try has 5 settler ,4 workers, 2 scouts, 2 warriors, 3 techs, and 400 gold.most important thing is the domination limit .it is %56 and i think Dianthus wrong about the domination limit will increase after killing an opponent.

 

[Moonsinger]

i think it is not true .my first settler try has 5 settler ,4 workers, 2 scouts, 2 warriors, 3 techs, and 400 gold.most important thing is the domination limit .it is %56 and i think Dianthus wrong about the domination limit will increase after killing an opponent.

I don't know....my assumption was based solely on logic. The more civs = more chance for someone to beat us to the huts = less chance for us to beat them to the huts. I really don't think Firaxis put x number of extra huts on the map for each additional civ.

PS: I think Dianthus was right because I have seen the domination limit increase after I eliminated a civ.

 

[Shadowsong]

the same ?

i ve never seen it before in my games.i started dom limit at %64 and finished %64.i killed 5 guys and nothing changed.are you sure about that??? .

Absolutely certain. For every opponent killed the limit will increase until it reaches a maximum. Maybe for the games you played previously it was already at the maximum?

The limit does not change for me either. The limit was 50% in a Huge map, but after finishing 8 AIs the land % was still the same.

 

[Dianthus]

A while back I saw the code that does this in the SDK and tried it to see what happens. I would recheck to make absolutely sure, but I've left my Civ4 DVD in my work laptop. I'm tempted to go back to work and pick it up, but I keep telling myself that I'm not that addicted .

 

[Moonsinger]

The limit does not change for me either. The limit was 50% in a Huge map, but after finishing 8 AIs the land % was still the same.

When I get home this Wednesday, I will try to post a save for this. IIRC, it saw this happenned during my last three games. It's definitely in one my Deity attempt that's currently listed on the HoF.