5CC Regent Training Game

[choxorn]

Of course Knights can upgrade to Sipahi. It has been possible to upgrade to any UU ever since a patch in Vanilla.

Did you trade Banking to anybody but Americans? The AI always trades things around, and better you get the bonus from them than they do.

 

[killerkid]

It says in the civilopedia: Knight--Upgrades to Sipahi.
The Americans have chemistry, but besides us 2, I think only 1 or 2 other civs have banking. None of them had more than 3 gold, so I didn't bother trading it.

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[Steel_Khalil]

Great turn set
Wow, a leader for Newt's ^.^
And there's too many workers o.o why don't we use the slaves for building the road? It's 3/4 done now
Great job for razing the cities too ^_^ that's 5 down and 16 to go!
Once we get Sipahi's that'll be an easy job.

 

[killerkid]

Most of them are slaves. There's no more than 2 natives in the bunch.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Great turn set!
Where is iron located in Arabia? Do they have more than one?
If we have a stack near an iron resource, then we should attack that city. If they don't have iron, then we won't have to face MIs.

 

[choxorn]

Or Ansars.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Does ansars require iron? o.o

So what you guys we should do now?
We almost got roads.
Almost MT.
and what now?

 

[TheOverseer714]

This is my "got it" post, I have downloaded the save. If it works, I will play tonight. I think Ansars require Iron, but not totally sure. They do require horses, which can also be pillaged. I think we may want some Sipahi Armies, as their stats (8/3/3) will make an army that will never be beaten til tanks and bombers come along, and that is far away. We should have already won by that point.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Oh... ok ok
Are we going for conquest VC?

 

[killerkid]

Yeah steel. 5CCC 5 city conquest challenge.

Ansars require iron, so yeah, we should pillage it. However, their bound to get gunpowder soon, so we should also pillage the saltpeter, as I don't fancy Knights vs. Muskets.

Good luck Overseer!

 

[Tasslehoff]

No, had only just got Feudalism when the MIs started appearing in my turn-set. They aren't anywhere near gunpowder. I think unit support is killing them worse than it kills us . Overseer- remember armies in PTW can't blitz, don't get extra movement, all that. I don't think it's worth it.

 

[TheOverseer714]

Finished my turn-set. Here is the turn-log:

Spoiler :

Pre-flight: CivAssist 2, Word running. Get the save loaded. Look things over. Go ahead and trade Banking to Aztecs for Music Theory (why not have Sistine and JS Bach’s?).

Cities:
Istanbul: size 12, growth stalled, Bank in 2 turns.
Bursa: size 12, growth stalled, Knight in 1 turn.
Edrine: size 12, growth stalled, Knight in 3 turns.
Iznik: size 12 growth stalled, Bank in 2 turns..
Uskudar: size 12 growth stalled, Knight in 3 turns.

Non-Combat:
Workers, 1 native, 19 slaves.
Military:
Swords 6
Horses 1
Pikeman 5
Knights 20
Galley 1
Medieval Infantry 6

Press enter=>

IBT. Barbs destroy 2 workers.
Bursa knight=>knight

460 AD: Destroy 2 barb villages for 50 gold. No other significant occurrences.

IBT: Istanbul Bank=>Harbor.
Iznik Bank=>knight.

470 AD: Battle for Aydab.
vMDI wins vs rSpear clean.
vMDI wins vs rSpear, -2hp, and Aydab is ours!
Raze generates 1 slave.

IBT: Edrine knight=>JS Bach’s.

480 AD: Rush JS Bach’s with Suleyman.
Battle for Yamama:
vKnight retreats from undamaged rSpear-3hp
vMDI wins vs rSpear clean.
eMDI wins vs rSpear, -2hp, and Yamama is ours!
Raze generates 1 slave.


IBT: Edrine JS Bach’s=> knight.
Bursa knight=>knight.

490 AD: Battle for Fez:
vKnight wins vs rSpear, -3hp.
vKnight retreats vs undamaged rSpear -3hp.
3hp vKnight wins vs rSpear, -1hp, and Fez is ours!
Raze generates 1 slave.

IBT: Metallurgy arrives, next is Military Tradition.
Istanbul Harbor=>knight.
Iznik knight =>knight.

500 AD: Set science to 90% to get Military Tradition in 4 turns.
Battle for Bayt Ras:
vKnight wins vs rSpear, -3hp.
vKnight retreats vs rSpear, -3hp
vKnight wins vs 2hp rSpear, -1hp, and Bayt Ras is ours!
Raze generates 2 slaves.

IBT: Uskudar knight =>knight.

510 AD: nothing much.

IBT: Edrine knight =>knight.
Bursa knight=>knight.

520 AD: I trade Metallurgy to America for Economics, Navigation, World Map and 39gold. Pillage Arabs Iron.
.
IBT: Istanbul knight=>Magellan’s Voyage.
Iznik knight =>knight.
Trade Economics, Navigation and Iron to Aztecs for Physics.

530 AD:.nothing much.

IBT: Military Tradition arrives, next is Theory of Gravity.

540 AD:. Take out 2 barb villages for 50 gold.
Battle for Mosul:
vKnight loses vs rSpear..
eKnight loses vs rSpear.
vKnight wins vs 2hp rSpear. Need more troops. Hill bonus is a killer.


IBT: Edrine sipahi=>sipahi.
The people love us, add towers to palace.

550AD: troops set to take Anjar next turn.

Cities:
Istanbul: size 12, growth stalled, Magellan’s in 13 turns.
Bursa: size 12, growth stalled, Sipahi in 1 turn.
Edrine: size 12, growth stalled, Sipahi in 1 turns.
Iznik: size 12 growth stalled, Palace(Newton’s University pre-build) 8 turns
Uskudar: size 12 growth stalled, Sipahi in 4 turns.

Non-Combat:
Workers, 0 native, 22 slaves.
Military:
Swords 6
Horses 1
Pikeman 5
Knights 22
Galley 1
Sipahi 1
Medieval Infantry 6

Some screenshots and the save:

No time tonight to elaborate, more thoughts tomorrow.

 

[Tad Empire_0_o]

Lurkers Comment(s):
I think you should make a massive army & navy & destroy america before they get really hard to kill units... to bad you guys didnt settle on the east side of your continent it would of sped things up alot quicker. By the way in PTW can leaders rush Wonders? because I know you can in Vanilla.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Yes, leaders can rush wonders. Overseer just did ^.^

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choxorn-- the batboy.


civassist2 looks like a really useful program. Do they have a version for macs? If so, where do I get it?

 

[choxorn]

Guys, use some of that gold for Knight->Sipahi Upgrades. This is loose 5CC, so you can capture a city or two, hope it has barracks, and pile knights into the city to upgrade them to Sipahi. Just a thought...

 

[Tasslehoff]

Choxorn's right. When we can, capture a city. If it has barracks, upgrade all knights nearby, then abandon. If not, abandon immediately.

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

I got the save.
Played a couple turns, & we have another leader!

 

[TheOverseer714]

Sorry Tassle, no one has ported CivAssist 2 over to the Mac yet. A team member in another SG has the same problem, no access to a utility program like CA2 or MapStat. Maybe start a thread in the Mac Forum and beg....
I see we have another leader, I recommend using it for Smith's or finishing Magellan's, as I have no doubts on getting Newton's. Another thing I was wondering is whether we waste 12 turns researching towards Shakespeare's Theatre or just research sanitation and build hospitals? We are on the verge of getting our free tech to begin the IA, so hope for Steam Power. Our war-road would be better as a railroad.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Yey great leader ^_^
I don't think we would need the railroad... we're almost finish with abu...
Let's start with the navy o.o
And possible targets for the intercontinental assault
Are we allowed to get allies?

 

[Tasslehoff]

Allies are fine: All that's required is we win by conquest. Overseer- I prefer researching sanitation for hospitals rather than getting Shakespeare's.