5CC Regent Training Game

[choxorn]

Sure we're allowed to get allies!

I would hope more for Nationalism than Steam Power, which is impossible to get by means other than researching due to the AI's extreme overpricing of it. The only way is to pay Steam Power+Medicine, or one of those techs and a lot of money.

@Shakes: We want all of our cities to be size 20+, not just one. Research Sanitation.

Plus, Shakes doesn't give the "allows cities to grow above size 12" bonus in Vanilla or PTW.

@Transcontinental assualt: Perhaps you should just use MPP's to get everyone one that continent at war with each other. AI's are not well known for amphibious invasions, and being at war with one or two of them won't hurt you.

BTW, if you looked at some of the screenies from Overseer's last post, you would have noticed an Iroqouis city becoming American, meaning they might be at war. Establish an embassy with one of them and see. For that matter, it would be useful to establish an embassy with all of them at some point in the future.

Lastly, why am I "The batboy"?

 

[Hawk Chieftain]

Turn 0- Knight kills Arab MI (1-0)
Edrine- Sipahi<Sipahi (4 turns)
Bursa- Sipahi<Sipahi (4 turns)

Turn 1 (560 AD)-Sword kills barb warrior
Have grape colony, sword fortified
Send MI stack North towards Mosul
Battle of Anjar: Elite Knight kills Arab spear, generates a leader! (2-0)
Vet Knight kills Arab spear, raze city (has Barracks but too far away to get knights there) (3-0)

IBT- Knight kills Arab MI (4-0)
America gets Smith’s
Aztecs land settler near where Anjar was, they should be our next target

Turn 2 (570 AD)-Knight kills barb horse
Establish another spice colony
Reduce Science to 80%, TOG in 1 turn

IBT- Knight kills barb horse, promotes to Elite
TOG completed. Starts Magnetism. Science to 50%

Turn 3 (580 AD)-Battle of Damascus: Knight kills Arab spear (5-0)
Arab spear kills Knight (5-1)
Knight kills Arab spear, raze city (no barracks) (6-1)
Switch Iznik to Newton’s (9 turns)

IBT- Arab Longbow kills Knight (6-2)
Arab longbow kills MI (6-3)
Knight kills barb horse
Uskudar-Sipahi<Sipahi (4 turns)

Turn 4 (590 AD)-MI’s kill 2 Arab longbows (8-3)
Arab MI kills Knight (8-4)
MI kills barb warrior
Sipahi kills barb warrior, promotes to Elite
Knight kills Arab longbow, promotes to Elite (9-4)
Knight kills Arab MI, promotes to Elite (10-4)

IBT- America builds Denver right next to fur colony, we lose it
Arab spear takes on Sipahi, is killed (11-4)
Edrine-Sipahi<Sipahi (4 turns)
Bursa- Sipahi<Sipahi (4 turns)

Turn 5 (600 AD)-Sipahi kills barb warrior, takes village & 25 gold
Knight kills Arab MI (12-4)
Knight kills Arab Spear (13-4)
Knight kills Arab MI (14-4)
Knight kills Arab Spear (15-4)
Sipahi kills Arab MI (16-4) We are in a Golden Age!
MI kills Arab MI, promotes to Elite (17-4)
Battle of Aleppo: Sipahi kills Arab spear (18-4)
Knight is redlined by Arab spear
Knight kills Arab spear, captures city (19-4)
Upgrade 5 Knights & 1 Horse to Sipahi for 105 gold

IBT- America tells us to leave Denver. Trade Wines to America for Incense, WM & 22 gold
Knight kills barb horse, promotes to Elite
Abandon Aleppo

Turn 6 (610 AD)-Leader enters Istanbul
Sipahi kills barb warrior, takes village & 25 gold
Knight kills barb warrior, take village & 25 gold
Battle of Kufah: Sipahi kills 2 Arab pikes (21-4), raze city, captures 3 workers
Knight kills Arab spear, captures settler (22-4)

IBT- Arab Ansar comes out
Edrine- Sipahi<Sipahi (2 turns)
Uskudar- Sipahi<Sipahi (3 turns)

Turn 7 (620 AD)- Arab Ansar kill 2 Knights (22-6) Knight kills Arab Ansar (23-6)
Battle of Mosul: Arab spear kills 2 MI’s (23-8)
Rush Magellan’s

IBT- Magellan’s is finished. Start Caravel (1 turn) in Istanbul
Bursa- Sipahi<Sipahi (3 turns)

Turn 8 (630 AD)- Battle of Medina: Sipahi kills Arab Pike, Spear, & longbow (26-8), raze city
Sipahi kills Arab Pike (27-8)
Sipahi captures Arab worker
Battle of Khurasan: Sipahi kills 2 Arab spears, raze city
Move Science to 30%, Magnetism in 1 turn

IBT-Arab longbow kills MI (26-9)
Magnetism is completed. We get Nationalism free. Start Medicine (6 turns). Increase Science to 70%
Edrine-Sipahi<Sipahi (2 turns)
Newton’s University is complete. Start Frigate in Iznik (2 turns)
Palace expands

Turn 9 (640 AD)-Battle of Balkh: Sipahi kills 2 Arab spears (28-9), raze city, capture 2 Arab workers

IBT- Lose 2 Arab slaves to barb warrior
Istanbul-Galleon<Galleon (2 turns)
Bursa-Sipahi<Rifleman (2 turns)
Uskudar- Sipahi<Rifleman (2 turns)

Turn 10 (650 AD)- Battle of Baghdad:Sipahi attacks Arab Pike, turns away redlined
Sipahi kills Arab pike (29-9)
Knight kills Arab spear, razes city (no barracks), captures Arab worker
Battle of Fustat:Sipahi kills Arab pike (30-9)
Elite Sipahi is turned away redlined by Arab spear
Sipahi kills Arab spear, razes city, captures 2 Arab workers

613 Gold, +7gpt
Medicine in 4 turns

Our mainland:

Our next target?

 

[choxorn]

IBT- America builds Denver right next to fur colony, we lose it
Arab spear takes on Sipahi, is killed (11-4)

Those evil Americans! George W. Bush must be president right now.

Are you SURE that's not a mistype? No AI is dumb enough to attack a Sipahi with a spearman. Plus, that would give us a Golden Age!

 

[Steel_Khalil]

This'll be my got it post ^_^
before i play.... what you guys think i should do next...
i plan to finish off the arabs (if its possible in just 10 turns o.o)
build up the transports (or should we wait for combustion?)
establish MPPs? (dunno which ones >.<)

@Hawk_Chieftain
Great turn set

 

[TheOverseer714]

For ease of conquest, a fractured continent is much better. I think Germany or England should be our next opponent, with Military Alliances's with the other smaller countries. One point: Do not get the Americans involved. A war over there with them involved just makes them stronger. We want to pick off one of the little guys first, then we dogpile America (biastards stole our furs!) We need a fur colony up in former Arab territory ASAP, so kill them quick and get some furs. As soon as the Arabs are done, Declare on England or Germany, then trade to get a dogpile going (Aztecs, Iroquois and the one we don't declare on). By all means, build about 4 galleons, 2 veteran, 2 regular and about 6 frigates(all veterans) to escort. Then we start shuttling troops over. I think with Sipahis we can roll over all the small countries. For America, we might need tanks, but I hope not.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Got it.
I'll post tomorrow. Its already 5am (local time).
Gotta go to school first >.<
I think i'll declare on the germans then MA with england and the aztecs if i finish abu.

 

[choxorn]

Once we have some scorched earth on the other continent, let the dogpile on America begin!

 

[Tasslehoff]

I like hitting England, and then smashing up America.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Turn 0 (650 AD)- Loaded the game. Checked everything. Pressed enter.

IBT - barb galley attacked Vet galleon, galleon promoted to elite. New city by Americans E of Bursa, Cinncinnati.

Turn 1 (660 AD) - Edrine - Sipahi>Rifleman (2 Turns). Iznik - Frigate>Frigate (2 Turns). Massive Uprising NW of Bursa. Sent a sipahi to deal with it. Sipahi attacks barb, sip win. Sipahi attacks Mecca. Sipahi retreats to 2/4 pike. Sipahi attacks Taif. Sipahi redlined by spear. Sipahi wins (1-0).

IBT - Arab Longbow attacks redlined sipahi. Longbow wins (1-1). 2 Barb Uprisings are deployed.

Turn 2 (670 AD) - Istanbul - Galleon>Galleon (2 Turns). Bursa - Rifleman>Sipahi (3Turns). Uskudar - Rifleman>Sipahi(3 Turns). vSipahi attacks Longbow. (2-1) vSipahi attacks Longbow. (3-1) VSipahi attacks Mecca. sip got hit once. (4-1) Science moved to 60% Medicine (2 Turns). MM some cities.

IBT - Arab land has become barb land. Barbs everywhere. Galley attacked by barb. turns to vet. Attacked again. promoted to elite with 3/5. Longbow attacks redlined sip. Longbow wins. (4-2). English settler landed NW of Istanbul.

Turn 3 (680 AD) - Edrine - Rifleman>Sipahi (2 Turns). Iznik - Frigate>Harbor(2 Turns). Sipahi attacks barb camp, got 25g. vSip attacks spear at mecca. turned elite (5-2). eSip attacks spear at mecca. (6-2). VSip attacks redline longbow. (7-2). vSip attacks encampment. got 25 g and a promotion. vSip attacks spear at mecca. vSip wins (8-2). Mecca razed (yey!). Science to 50%, Med at 1 Turn.

IBT - Knight raped by Horsemen. died. Abu wishes to make peace. you wish. And barbarians are everywhere.

Turn 4 (690 AD) - Medicine>Sanitation (6 Turns). Istanbul - Galleon>Galleon(2Turns). Science up to 60% (Sanitation. (6Turns)). vSip attacks pike at Aden. (9-2). vSip attacks Spear. (10-2) Raze Aden. 1 city Left. vKnight attacks Mosul. (11-2).

IBT - Barbs everywhere. Ambushing our troops. (Can't Enumerate. Just too many >.<). We lost some workers too. Liverpool founded S of Uskudar.

Turn 5 (700 AD) - Edrine - Sipahi>Sipahi (2 Turns). Bursa - Sipahi>Sipahi (3 Turns). Iznik - Harbor - Frigate (2 Turns). Uskudar - Sipahi>Sipahi (3 Turns). vSip attacks Spear at Mosul. wins (12-2).

IBT - Iroquois demand horses. Stick it. Iroquois declared on us. Barbs still ravages the land.

Turn 6 (710 AD) - Istanbul - Galleon>Rifleman (2 Turns). War happiness is all over the country o.o . Established fur colony. vSip attack Mosul. wins (13-2) . Bye bye abu

IBT - America demands medicine. Told him to stick it. Americans declared.

Turn 7 (720 AD) - Edrine - Sipahi>Sipahi (2 Turns). Iznik - Frigate>Frigate (2 Turns). Uskudar - Sipahi>Sipahi (3Turns). vSip attacks American spear and settler. Sip wins (1-0). vSip attacks Denver. (2-0) razes Denver.

IBT - Dover founded North of Bursa. Barbs now decreasing but still too many.

Turn 8 (730 AD) - Istanbul - Rifleman>Sipahi (2 Turns). Bursa - Sipahi>Sipahi (3 Turns). Sipahi attacks Cincinnati. (3-0) razes city. Sip attacks barb camp, got 25g. Science to 50% (Sani 1 Turn).

IBT - Barbs attacking. American Longbows just landed NE of Bursa.

Turn 9 (740 AD) - Sanitation > Steam Power (8Turns). Switched all Productions to Hospital. Science switched to 60% Steam (7 Turns).

IBT - American horse landed next to Iznik. Barbs ravage the land.

Turn 10 (750 AD) - Edrine - Hospital>Sipahi (2 Turns). Iznik - Hospital>Frigate (2 Turns). MI attacks longbow (4-0) got settler. Vsip attacks horse. (5-0).

We're at war with the Iroquios and the Americans. >.< they declared at this after i declined their demands

 

[TheOverseer714]

The Iroquois are at worst a nuisance, at best may be a long term source of war happiness. OTOH, America is a different kettle of fish. Let us shift directions and begin the dogpile now. See what we can trade to get our "friends" Germany, England and the Aztecs involved. The barbs mean that 2 more tribes changed eras. Get as many slaves to safety ASAP, and get some Sipahis on Barb patrol. Also remember the NW-SE barb axis, they rarely attack anything in other directions.

 

[choxorn]

The OCC Iros will not very likely be a long-time source of war happiness, as they will just get killed by America sooner or later.

America must have been one of the other guys in the IA, judging from their look.

 

[Tasslehoff]

No, the Iroquois aren't gonna be hit by America unless Germany and Aztecland dogpile. I think the Iroquois are just a source of WH .

Roster:
Steel- Just played
Tasslehoff- UP
Killerkid- On deck
Overseer- Warming Up
Hawk- Napping

I'm going to dogpile the Americans, and start building ships to ferry troops over ASAP. Might need to spend some time killing the massive uprisings. Steel- I need you to upload the save. I can't play today, will play tomorrow.

 

[killerkid]

Sorry I haven't posted for so long. School has been killer

Choxorn: You are the batboy because you help us but don't play; like a batboy to a baseball team

Everyone else: Are we invading from the side Istanbul's on, or the side closer to Uskadar? Good job killing the Arabs Steel!

 

[Tasslehoff]

We can't attack America from the East: No ports. We have to attack across the Western Ocean.

 

[Steel_Khalil]

I knew i missed something... sorry Tasslehoff ^_^
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/128630/Hawk01__750_AD.SAV

 

[Tasslehoff]

Alright, done. I built a decent fleet, filled 'em up with Sipahis, and sent them over to America. There weren't many battles, except for barbs, so I didn't keep record of wins, and didn't mention the barb battles (I didn't lose anybody). I messed up at the end, and sent 18 sipahis to a really weak city, and 8 to a strong one , but they're close by, and whoever's next shouldn't lose too many fighting turns to it.

Spoiler Turnset :

Turn 0- 750 AD- Steel, I think you saved before you finished doing the turn, I had to attack the horse and the longbowman again. Build Embassies with Germany, England, and Aztecs. None of them have saltpeter, Aztecs don't have Iron. Kill longbowman with MI, get settler. Kill horse with vSip. Give Bismarck Chem for war, give Lizzie Wines and Spices for war, give Monte Iron for war. A lot of barb killing.
IBT- A lot of barbs dye on Sipahi bullets and Knight blades.
Turn 1- 760 AD- Iznik Galleon->Galleon. MM for growth. Uskudar Hospital->Sipahi. Palace expands. Kill a buncha barbs. A frigate bombards, then another kills American caravel.
IBT- More barbs suicide.
Turn 2- 770 AD- Istanbul Hospital->Rifle. Edrine Sipahi->Sipahi. Bursa Hospital->Battlefield Medicine. Pollution strikes Iznik. Borders expand, making fur colony unneeded. More barbs die.
IBT- Barbs are lessening now.
Turn 3- 780 AD- Iznik Galleon->Frigate. Uskudar Sipahi->Sipahi.
IBT- Barbs are basically gone. England and Germany are losing cities now...
Turn 4- 790 AD- Istanbul Rifle->Galleon. Edrine Sipahi->Sipahi.
IBT- England has lost two or so cities, Germany three or four.
Turn 5- 800 AD- Iznik Frigate->Sipahi, Uskudar Sipahi->Sipahi. Switch Istanbul->Sipahi. Science->10%
Turn 6- 810 AD- GA ends. Get steam power, Electricity in 12. Barb threat now nonexistant.
IBT- America gets BERLIN!
Turn 7 820 AD- Istanbul Sipahi->Frigate, Edrine Sipahi->Sipahi. Boats are fully loaded, all leave to attack Berlin.
IBT- Los Angeles founded by Uskudar.
Turn 8- 830 AD- isnik Galleon->Galleon. Uskudar Sipahi->Sipahi. vSipahi destroys LA.
IBT- zzz.
Turn 9- Istanbul Frigate->Frigate. vSip razes Memphis in the North. vSip kills musket, grabs settler.
IBT- America has forced Germany into a OCC.
Turn 10-Army unloads- 8 by Berlin, 18 by Frankfurt (oops).

Spoiler Core :

Spoiler Other Continent :

killerkid- You probably only need one Sipahi to raze Frankfurt, maybe two for Hamburg. Send the rest back towards the roaded areas. Sorry for messing up.

Roster:
Tasslehoff--> Just played
Killerkid--> UP
Overseer--> On Deck
Hawk--> Warming Up
Steel--> Napping.

The save: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/117283/Hawk01Tas_850_AD.SAV

 

[choxorn]

Well, Germany's screwed. So are the Iros. England and Aztecs are slightly less screwed, due to having cities on our continent, but still, screwed. We may have underestimated America's strength...

 

[Tasslehoff]

If we raze all the cities they captured from Germany quickly, it shouldn't be too bad. Pillage their saltpeter, and keep them from getting more on our continent, and we'll win.

 

[TheOverseer714]

The americans are helping us in a way, if it ends up us and them with a few weak allies on our continent, we just send an overwhelming group at any city of theirs. Since we raze anyway, theres no need to assimilate. We can keep a city until the end of the turn so abandon, not raze. Do we really need any more slaves?

 

[Steel_Khalil]

Hmm... this is gonna be interesting if we just focus on Linc then when we're done with him, other civs would be weak by that time. lol pwnage