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6 City Magic?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Akadah, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Akadah

    Akadah Troll

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    What's so magical about having 6 cities? I keep reading from experienced players (especially Obsolete) that you need 6 cities to win even if some of these cities are not ideally placed? Why?
     
  2. alex sword

    alex sword Raging Barbarian

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    This "magic" number is not exactly 6, this number depends on world size. Must-have is how many cities is needed to build Oxford and WallStreet national wonders.
     
  3. Gooblah

    Gooblah Heh...

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    To build the main national wonders on a Standard map, you need 6 specific buildings:
    Oxford University: 6 Universities
    Ironworks: 6 Forges
    Wall Street: 6 Banks

    Thus, you need 6 cities as a minimum. Of course, more is usually nice, but six is the minimum you need for NW/City Specialization.
     
  4. Iranon

    Iranon Deity Whipping Boy

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    You also need 3 Temples for each Cathedral, so having at least 6 cities is a good idea for a cultural victory (you might not need them in your capital)
     
  5. FuRRie

    FuRRie King

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    then again you often need 7 quest buildings (Harbor, library, ...), so maybe the magic number is 7 nowadays ;)
     
  6. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    Also 6 courthouses for the forbidden Palace.

    6 theaters for Globe theater

    6 hospitals for the Red Cross
     
  7. ganto

    ganto Chieftain

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    one thing i was wondering, does this requirement change for OCC games?
     
  8. tycoonist

    tycoonist Deity

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    yes. in OCC pre-bts, you can build every national wonder so long as you have that building in the city (ie. one theatre lets you build Globe Theatre)

    post-bts, you can build a maximum of 5 national wonders, opening up some interesting choices (GT, OU are a must. but what about NP and IW?)
     
  9. ganto

    ganto Chieftain

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    Thanks for the info, I remember reading it somewhere but couldnt remember the specifics and couldnt find it in the civopedia.
     
  10. Bureaucracy

    Bureaucracy Chieftain

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    I found it odd that NE requires nothing.

    And at one time, didn't the HE require 6 barracks?
     
  11. tycoonist

    tycoonist Deity

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    HE requires level 4 unit
     
  12. Silence101

    Silence101 King

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    I usually build production and commerce cities in about a 1:1 ratio, with the first few being hybrids. So two hybrids, two commerce, two production... sounds good to me.

    Personally though, I think that the more quality land you have, the better... even with increased city expenses.
     
  13. iamnleth

    iamnleth Warlord

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    I like to think more along the lines of "20 city magic".
     
  14. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    make that 30 and you have my vote ;)
     
  15. Kalimakhus

    Kalimakhus Emperor

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    Actually on a Standard map you need 2 temples for each Cathedral. The 6 cities magic number comes in action here as you will most likely need a Cathedral in each of the three most cultured cities of yours if you aim at a cultural victory. Cathedrals give 50% culture which is a great help in such an endeavor. Ideally you will have more than one religion so you make sure you spread them all to all of your cities and build one temple for each religion in each city allowing you to build more than one Cathedral in each of the 3 culture centers of yours.
     
  16. The_Reckoning

    The_Reckoning Prince

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    It does?

    IIRC, it's West Point which requires a level 6 unit.
     
  17. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    exactly, a level 4+ unit for HE and a level 6+ unit (can be the same) for West Point
     
  18. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    on standard map, it's 3. It's on small, tiny or duel map that you need 2.
     
  19. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    As many as possible. Good if their names are exotic.
     
  20. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    I think the winning strategy is to have maybe only a few cities, but all of them on capital starting positions.:mischief:
    It helps a lot in the specialization.
    For instance, in my current game, my capital has national epic + oxford uni, beijing has globe theater, technotitlan is building troops, paris has Iron Works + Red cross, kyoto has 2 holy shrines, Ulundi isn't specialized yet, but I guess it will build a few boats ...:king:
    Now I'm comfortable :lol:

    Just bragging, this is for G-major 20, so it's on warlord difficulty, and I'm playing for a time victory.
     

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