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Discussion in 'Civ6 - Game Of The Month' started by Knowtalent, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. Knowtalent

    Knowtalent Emperor GOTM Staff

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    Welcome to the 6otM 80 After Actions Report. In this thread you can post the results of your game. Please state victory date and score and the save choice (preferably in the post title), as recorded in the Hall of Fame, and the most important: your path to glory!
    STOP - Please do not continue reading this thread until you have completed and submitted your game

    Please attached your victory save to your post.
    - How many cities did you settle or capture?
    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    - Did you bother with religion?
    - How did you get your Military??
    - Were City-States helpful?
    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    - Did you enjoy the game?
    Please use spoiler tags for any surprise details you'd like kept hidden. Thanks.
    Players are encouraged to provide feedback on the game. Some players like to replay the game, and although we will not record the results from a replay, you can still post your new experiences (please state if the game is a replay). Please refrain from posting videos until the deadline for submission is over.
     
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  2. Eyswein

    Eyswein Warlord

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    T91, Domination Victory

    Spoiler T1-60 Ancient Era :

    Cities:
    1-Sparta
    (SIP): 6-Scout, 9-Tile (amber), 16-Settler, 20-Builder, 23-Slinger, 26-Tile (campus), 29-Monument, 31/38-Warrior, 36-Campus, 42-Gov Plaza, 46/50/53-Builder, 56/59-Horseman
    21-Athens (4E/2NE): 21/27-Tiles (horses/campus), 32-Monument, 36-Warrior, 45-Campus, 51g-Builder, 50/55/55/55/60/60-Horsemen (4 via chopping)
    37-Argos (5W/1SW): 39g-Builder, 42-Tile (stone), 46/50/?/?-Galley
    Two captured from Mongols on T57/60

    Science: AH, Pottery, Writing, Archery, Sailing, HB Riding, Mining, Irrigation, BW, Masonry
    Note: I think skipping BW until after Shipbuilding would have been better as I had horsemen waiting; all others were needed for focus areas (i.e. Masonry was needed to chop horsemen)
    Culture: COL, FT, Craft, EE, SW, Mil Trad, G&R, Mysticism
    Note: Just needed to find a third city state to get Pol Phil as I switched from it to not waste the free boost; I think waiting for that was a mistake, but I kept assuming with all my exploration I would have to find one sooner, but it was later
    Policies note: started Sur/UP/GK; then switched to generally faster military (ships/cavalry)
    Governors: Magnus x3 (Black Marketeer) in Athens for 4 chops

    Military: 4 Galley; 3 Warriors, 1 Archer, 8 Horsemen
    Diplomacy: met 6 so far to include an Indonesian ship off the coast of Mongolia on T57; 57-war Mongols
    Trading: traded horses until I could use them as I was topping over my 50 max, but after I could start building horsemen didn’t have enough and no one could/would trade them
    City States: only 2 so far, but somehow met them first on T31 & 32
    Religion: 28 – Pantheon Religious Settlements
    Wonders: None
    Era Score: way over with 39/25

    Strategy:
    1) Have just enough military to survive early barbarians and get initial cities out; after getting Religious settlements decided that was enough; Argos settlement slowed due to needing settler escort
    2) AH led to Athens decision and horsemen focus
    3) 2 good Campus squares, so decided to get them up in case I needed to get to Cartography
    4) 1st builder did 3 pastures; rest did 2 actions, then became explorers
    5) T57 – started war with Mongols with goal of wiping them out


    Spoiler T61-91 Victory :

    Golden Age: Monumentality
    Note: mainly so Builders could be used as better explorers
    Cities: Three core in ancient era; finished with 25 total; did all capture, none leveled

    Science: 63-Shipbuilding, etc.
    Culture: Mil Training, 65- Pol Phil, focus on envoys (just wow on finding a third city state so late; should have done Pol Phil without waiting on the boost; actually started to do that, so only got a partial boost)
    Policies: at 65 switched to Oligarchy with faster military build and war focus; goal of Suz on new continent
    Governors: Amani for Suz help, then 2 others for loyalty in captured cities

    Military: 5 Galley (had 1 destroyed), 2 Quadrireme; 23 Horsemen, some others to include levied troops from 3 city states
    Diplomacy: didn’t meet Persia and Mapuche until T80/81
    Trading: OB when possible with new civs; try to get civs to join me in wars when possible, but that was only available soon after meeting due to grievances
    City States: Suz of Kabul for faster promotions; Suz of 4 on new continent with main intent to levy troops
    Religion: not a focus, got one near end of game
    Wonders: None

    Strategy:
    1) Builder exploration
    2) First few horsemen take out the Mongols
    Met 14-Mongols: W57-61, destroyed

    3) T63 – After Shipbuilding sent 4 horsemen east in hopes of finding Indonesia (saw a ship on T57, but would have sent a force that direction anyway), 4 horsemen west (Netherland target)

    4) Take out the remainder of the continent with 2 separate forces
    26-Brazil: W71-86, defeated with small force of 2 horsemen and an archer, 2 main cities quickly, then later the late build they did to the south
    53-Phoenicia: W62-77, peace with 1 remaining city; started with 3 galleys, but then sent additional warriors and then horsemen as they were built in main cities
    68-England: W79-88, with horsemen

    5) Eastern Army reaches Indonesia
    57-Indonesia: T80-end, T85-capital; eastern horsemen army that had to detour north to avoid barbarian ships, total of 6 sent that direction with 1 never making it and 1 being destroyed at the capital gates, started with capital, then was trying to continue on
    Note: I didn’t know where Indonesia was when we met as they got to see me instead of an exchange; discovered their location in early 70’s with a builder

    6) Western Army reaches Netherlands
    51-Netherlands: W74-81, destroyed with initial 4 horsemen sent that way; first capital, then split in 2 horsemen each for the 2 other cities
    Note: should have bought builders and chopped in horsemen right away in the captured Netherland cities, ended up doing this in Japan cities instead, definitely wasting time
    53-Japan: W76-82, defeated; started with ships, then a horsemen joined in from the Netherlands due to fighting Japanese and barbarian ships at sea
    Levy: T81 – Levy Antananarivo, T81 – Levy Kumasi, T84 – Levy Jerusalem (lost this on T91 and had to retake Suz, but didn’t matter); definitely could have done better with levy units as I didn’t even get to use some Swordsmen upgrades I did; should have levied sooner and taken the chance on losing Suz, which happened with Jerusalem anyway
    80-Persia: W82-end, T89-capital, initially bypassed Zranka to capture capital
    81-Mapuche: W88-end, T91-capital, capital focus only


    - Did you enjoy your game? Absolutely; great work as always; really liked the change of having more civilizations that normal on a standard map
     

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  3. tarafran

    tarafran Warlord

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    T133 DV
    - How many cities did you settle or capture? settled 3 , captured all on my continent
    - What did you prioritize for research and policies? BW for the UU and GG.
    - Did you bother with religion? I did not at first till I captured a city with a Shrine . just made the last one
    - How did you get your Military??production
    - Were City-States helpful? Yes I levied twice from CS
    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it? So many Barbs :)
    - Did you enjoy the game?yes a lot thanks

    Cudos to Eyswein for the T91 win !
     

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  4. Monthar

    Monthar Emperor

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    Domination Victory Turn 164 Score 1361

    I kept getting distracted with building districts and buildings.
     

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  5. tarafran

    tarafran Warlord

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    Domination T 90 replay using Eyswein roadmap
    spamming acropolis to get envoys and levy city states
    Thanks you for the lesson :)
     

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  6. Casualty of war

    Casualty of war Warlord

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    Turn 144 DV. Built my fleet in the wrong place to efficiently take a coastal capital, had to sail the long way around. And lost a remarkable number of troops to Quadrireme swarms while sending welcoming parties over to the other continent. Turns out that 3 Quad shots will finish off Knights and Pikemen.

    Thank you for the game.

    Spoiler :
    Taking Ngulu Mapu when I was in a Golden Age and they had a Horseman garrisoned was tough. 3 Coursers was not enough and they must have had Victor in there because I could not get a siege going.

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  7. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Jag är Viking!½ GOTM Staff

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    DV t140 score 1094

    Too easy with no walls. If I knew how weak the AI would be, maybe 20 turns earlier. Mongols, then Brazil, then most army west. Japan, Dutch, Mapuche, Indonesia and Persia... did England some time in the middle of all that. Too many wonders and districts, esp campus. No need for any of that... worst I ever faced were immortals, and a single crossbow at the end- I had just upgraded to P&S, musket, and what comes after catapults barrage. Overkill by a long way.
     

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  8. Bangau

    Bangau Warlord Supporter

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    DV turn 130

    Spoiler screenshot victory :
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    Bit of a crazy game. The AI barely put up a fight, didn't have a better strategy than: units, fight, science, more units, explore, fight, etc... ;-) At a certain point forgot you only need the capitals... :crazyeye:
     
  9. Falabello

    Falabello Prince

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    Domination Victory - Turn 123

    - Did you enjoy the game?
    Of course... Keep it :)
     

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  10. Minou

    Minou Prince

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    Domination Victory T110

    Spoiler :


    Settled in Place and started with Builder / Slinger / Settler / Monument. I missed out on Religious Settlements and God of War, ending up with Divine Spark (figured it might have been helpful if Cartography was needed, which turned out not to be the case). Second city (T25) was placed directly on a Horse by the Salt, in order to speed Horseman production.

    My exploring was pretty slow in part because a random flood almost killed my starting Warrior. I did not meet any city states until T45 when I finally found Cahokia, and thus missed out on getting the Political Philosophy boost.

    I thought Cartography might be necessary, and so focused too much on Science early on with several Campus/Library plus Free Inquiry for my Golden Age. Eyswein's choice of Monumentality for faster Builder movement was much smarter.

    Horsemen started popping at T50, allowing me to capture all three cities of Mongolia by T61. My troops continued south and wiped out Brazil (only had one city) on T68. The veterans along with some newly built Horsemen sailed over and take the Netherlands, whose capital was completely empty, on T103.

    A second army of Horsemen with suport from 2 Galleys took out Phoenecia on T78 and then continued south to England - captured their capital T89 and then declared peace for gold. They sailed over to Japan and captured their capital T98.

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    I have a Battering Ram heading over to Japan, but not a single AI ever put up walls. I thought surely by T100 they would start going up?

    My original plan was to try and conquer the overseas AIs mostly with levied troops. There were plenty of envoys to go around as I built Apandana then Hanging Garden and Oracle (just for the envoys) plus had a bunch from Acropolis. I always tried to have 2 or 3 extra envoys in levied city states to prevent the AI from flipping them back.I levied Palenque on T70 and took down Indonesia after a dangerous swim to their island (barb quads shot down two units on the way).

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    As always, barbs were more of an obstacle than the AIs. Quadriemes really harassed my sailing units, including this Horseman who died the next turn.
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    This wall of barbs slowed down my levied Palenque troops so badly that they did not reach Mapuche until 25 turns later.

    I also levied Kumasi and later Jerusalam’s armies and slowly upgraded all their Warriors to Swordman, who easily took out Perisa’s capital after marching untouched past their outer two cities. However, my Swords were unable to safely attack Mapuche’s outlying city because of the +10 Golden Age bonus and a garrisoning Horseman. Mapuche then delcared on Jerusalem, who was totally defenseless since I levied their units. I ended up spending many turns shooting down Mapuche troops with levied Crossbows to avoid losing my mercenary army entirely if Jerusalem fell.

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    Had this Horseman not showed up and fortified in Huilli Mapu I think I could have won 10 turns earlier. IThe troops northeast of the city waited for reinforcements for way too long instead of just going west around the city (which they ultimately ended up doing).

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    I was very worried those Mapuche Horsemen would take down Jerusalem (note the Crossbow can’t hit either from the tile it is on due to hills). But, they stupidly moved south the next turn.

    Ultimately, the levied Swords and Crossbows from Jerusalem were joined with the Horsemen left over from Japan (upgraded to Coursers) to take out Mapuche’s capital on T110. There was one interesting event on the final turn. I ended T109 with the Mapuche capital at 55hp with 3 Courser, 1 Archer, 1 Crossbow, and 1 Sword ready to attack. Between turns a flood occurred and actually killed a Courser and the Sword, but also did 50 damage to the city. This could have been a total disaster if I had less units, but eded up not mattering since the city damage was about the same that the washed-away units would have done.

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    All that mud is from a flood the turn the game ened. Two of my units bodies are buried somewhere below the surface!

    Gold was much bigger problem than loyalty. There were few mines to pillage so I lacked gold for levies and upgrades until I was able to pillage two Cotthons. For the most part I rolled over the AIs too quickly for Loyalty to matter but I actually ended up having the former Indonesia capital flip to a free city. It was frustratig because I had things timed out perfectly to harvest a Cattle to bump pop and avoid this but a barb Warrior out of the fog moved next to the tile and ruined my plans. In the end it didn’t matter as I re-captured it before I finished Mapuche.

     
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  11. Tarry

    Tarry Chieftain

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    Domination Victory T:168 Score: 1487

    - How many cities did you settle or capture?
    Settled: 10. Conquered: 35

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    I went towards encampments so I could spam my unique unit. After that to Iron working and then nitre

    - Did you bother with religion?

    Yes but I think I should have ignored it. It was a distraction for most of the game. I missed out on religious settlements which irritated me and I never felt to have enough faith to do things

    - How did you get your Military??
    Hard built everything. starting with warriors, slingers and then hoplites. I was quite impressed with the hoplites, but you have to keep them close together to make them work. Spearmen are just worse than warriors all the time.

    - Were City-States helpful?
    Only a little. Having 2 on the home continent caused me to end up delaying PolPhil for too many turns until I hard completed it.

    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    So many barbarians early on, scouts from N S E and W, I had a really hard time keeping them down. Glad it was prince and not immortal/deity because of the barbs.
    The mountain range protecting England was so flippin extensive, I walked all the way down and tried to get around only to give up due to barbarian quadremes murdering eveything that ttried to get around on the south. Probably cost me 20 turns or so.
    Later on the swarms of barbarian quads were a real pain as I was crossing the ocean, again overwhelming with numbers

    - Did you enjoy the game?
    Yes. But wow, I so lose focus all the time, founding extra unnecessary cities, building unimportant wonders, but I enjoyed it, I am a builder.

    After I finished I replayed this game following more closely the path as described by Eyswein, (few cities, chop in a horse army) and got a 125 turn victory, Again, lettimg myself get distracted with unimportant stuff cost me a bunch of turns in the mid game building fun stuff like pyramids that were unnecessary. His was a great writeup that shows me how to keep a lot more focused on doing what you need to do.

    Gah, I forgot to keep my winning save file :(
     
  12. DonChipotle

    DonChipotle Chieftain

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    Domination Victory T:161 Score: 1105
    I tried an archer rush on Mongolia first but I got pushed back, while barbs simultaneously attacked my territory from two directions. This was a setback early, but the only setback.

    The second push with horses destroyed Mongolia. From then on it was mostly just finding the other capitols. I was moving this veteran army of crossbowmen around, but once I got cavalry things went down much quicker. I should have focused more on horse units rather than building so many ranged units.

    - How many cities did you settle or capture?
    I settled 3 cities initially, then a few more later. I didn't end up needing them though. Captured: many.

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    Bottom of the tech tree at first for horses and crossbows. Later went for Cartography so I could attack the other continent. Then bombards and cavalry.

    For policies I just wanted things that gave me gold or cheap unit upgrades.

    - Did you bother with religion?
    No, but ended up founding one anyway sometime after turn 100 since I had captured so many Holy Sites and there was still a GP available.

    - How did you get your Military??
    Built early on. Later in the game got Grand Masters Chapel and bought some cavalry with faith and gold.

    - Were City-States helpful?
    Not too much. I didn't even find a third until long after Political Philosophy. Mostly used them for trade routes because I needed so much gold for buying units and upgrades. It was sort of annoying that the AI kept sending envoys and gaining suzerain status occasionally.

    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    It was sort of surprising how many units Mongolia had compared to the other AIs. The other AI's didn't seem to build more than a few units each even though it was much later in the game.

    - Did you enjoy the game?
    Yes, haven't played a lot of Civ 6 yet so learned a lot.
     

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  13. isopaha

    isopaha Chieftain

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    DV 156. One mistake cost me a lot of turns: I befriended one civ because I thought I needed more time before I could attack them, but taking out Mongolia and Brazil only took a few turns. Then I tried to go around them to get to England, but like an above poster also pointed out, it was impossible. My army was going round in circles to wait for being able to declare war. After that all went pretty smooth. This kind of difficulty level is not that fun, as barbarians are the number one trouble and that takes out the whole idea of Civ. I killed probably 25 barbarian quads and only 2-3 AI ships.
     

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  14. DanQuayle

    DanQuayle Prince

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    DomV T90

    Sent early 1 charge builder(1st) west
    Settled near the 3 horse tiles
    Barely built any infrastructure, except GP in capital and a few Acropolis for envoys.
    Farmed a lot of culture from barbarian kills coming from the North
    Pantheon: God of the Open Sky
    GA: PB&V
    GG: card + faith bought

    1st army: Qaraqorum, Rio de Janeiro, London
    2nd army: Tyre, Kyoto, Pasargadae
    3rd army: Amsterdam, Ngulu Mapu
    Took Majapahit with a galley and levied units from Mohenjo Daro (Gitarja's whole army consisted of two warriors and a slinger)
    Also levied units from Kumasi and Jerusalem to help against the Mapuche
    Lautaro was the only worthy enemy with his +10 CS vs golden age and 46CS horsemen.
    Also, many AIs opted for Victor/Defense Logistics (no siege) in their capitals
     

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  15. lotrmith

    lotrmith Prince

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    T116 Victory, 785 Score

    Took out Mongolia on T40 after sniping a settler from him and using a forward settle to upgrade slingers to archers. Pumped horsemen almost exclusively after that. Upgraded warriors to swordsmen. Archers to Xbows after they landed in Japan and I picked up Mercenaries.
    Dido died on T65
    England on 84, Brazil somewhere during that time.
    Crossed the sea and killed Japan on T95
    Netherlands on 105
    Majapit with a quad (great admiral spawn) and 2 gallies on T115.
    Mapuche capital on T116.


    - How many cities did you settle or capture?

    I only built 1 settler but stole one from Mongolia and forward settled, same with Dido. One from England I settled halfway to Japan. Got one from Mapuche very near the end but that didn't matter. In all I conquered 17 cities with only ~8 non-capital cities remaining at victory.

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?

    Given the map I teched up to archers, horsemen, and shipbuilding. Went along the bottom and upgraded my horses to curiassers. Was 6 turns from cavalry before I won.

    - Did you bother with religion?

    Nope. Got a prophet as I went from Netherlands to Mapuche so founding a Crusade religion in Amsterdam allowed me to convert his capital as I attacked it. Probably saved a turn or two that way.

    - How did you get your Military??

    Built military almost exclusively from my capital and first expansion, along with the other cities I conquered on my home continent. Sent them all on their way. Chopped Apandana and claimed a few other early wonders, and Acropolises, to levy a bunch of units.

    - Were City-States helpful?

    Yes, pinched Japan with Kumasi levy and turned and took out Persia with the same. I was marching Mohenjo Daro and Antananarivo units over to Majaphit but turned out to not need them. Kabul is always great for domination.

    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?\

    No surprises. Lautaro slowed me down due to golden age but was still easy to overwhelm with xbows and swords all with generals.

    - Did you enjoy the game?

    Yep!
     

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  16. Nassim

    Nassim Chieftain

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    My first game of the month !

    Turn 161, 971 pts

    - How many cities did you settle or capture?
    Settling 2 cities was enough to take over Mongolia, I only settled a 3rd later to get extra niter.

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    I'm not good at policies prioritizing, I was 4 turns from Nationalism when I won, I should have had it earlier.
    For research I think things through a tiny bit more, but still not my strongest suit... but I headed first for hoplites and swordsmen, before realizing I would need to also work a bit on sea sailing !

    - Did you bother with religion?
    No, but after capturing cities with holy cites I ended up with a great prophet on turn 122

    - How did you get your Military??
    On the first continent, mostly by producing it ; all the additional ones on the 2nd continent with gold and faith buying.

    - Were City-States helpful?
    Not much

    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    Mountains, so many mountains... I was fairly confident landing on the 2nd continent that I would end the game around turn 130, but I spent most of the late game walking around mountains.
    So I'd say my main mistake was not to explore the 2nd continent before attacking it, I went around blind and it costed a lot of turns. I also guess I should have made 2 balanced army forces instead of a bigger one, the only civs I took out simultaneously Japan and Brazil, and Netherlands and Indonesia (almost the only time naval units got useful safe for a bit of NL pillaging), but having the same army go after Japan then Netherlands then Mapuche then Persia was not the best plan.

    - Did you enjoy the game?
    The early phases yes, the end game not so much as it was mostly trying to find a path around the mountains (but yeah, my mistake !)

    By the way, what do you guys use for screen capture ?
     

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  17. Bangau

    Bangau Warlord Supporter

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    Just the in-game function: press F12 and you'll get a screenshot.
     
  18. leif erikson

    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Welcome to Game of the Month! Best of luck in future games. :thumbsup:
     
  19. Nassim

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    Thanks a lot !

    Thanks, I hope I will have time to at least do the King and Emperor ones (maybe immortal ? I guess it's time to try ! )
     
  20. Kendon

    Kendon Warlord

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    It took a while (too slow to retreat promoted units) but I'm willing to try King.
     

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