[Vote] (7-17 & 7-18) Spy Passive Bonus Proposal & Great Leap Forward Proposals

Approval Vote for Proposals #17 and #18


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Players, please cast your votes in the poll above. Vote "Yea" for every proposal you'd be okay with if it were implemented. Vote "Nay" if you'd be okay if these proposals weren't implemented. You can vote for any number of options.

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Host Note: 7-17 is compatible with both 7-18 and 7-18a (which are mutually exclusive with each other).

VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 17
Discussion Thread: (7-17) Spy Passive Bonus: Level 4 and 5 Cost Reduction [Spy Update 5]
Proposer: @Stalker0
Sponsor: @axatin

Proposal Details
This is one of a series of proposed tweaks to the Spy system to polish the new version.

Proposal:
  • Level 4 Passive Spy Benefit (7% science copy -> 10% science copy): NP cost reduced from 1700 to 1500.
  • Level 5 Passive Spy Benefit (still 10% science copy, but now see all city tiles): NP cost reduced from 2000 to 1800.
Rationale
  • This puts the costs more in line with current spy missions. Level 4 is now online when you can select a 1500 cost mission, so you now have a solid decision as to risk the passive bonus or go for the mission. The Level 5 benefit is honestly quite weak, and so reducing that is just inline with balancing.


VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 18
Discussion Thread: (7-18) Great Leap Forward Tenet: Spy Boost Nerf [Spy Update 6]
Proposer: @Stalker0
Sponsor: @axatin

Proposal Details
This is one of a series of proposed tweaks to the Spy system to polish the new version.

Proposal: Reduce the NP boost to spies from Great Leap Forward from 100% to 50%.

Rationale: The boost here is simply too high, even a 50% boost is still a very large push and is more in line with a tier 2 tenet.



VP Congress: Session 7, Proposal 18a
Discussion Thread: (7-18a) Great Leap Forward - Gain +100% Science From Surveillance (Passive Bonuses)
Proposer: @azum4roll
Sponsor: @axatin

Proposal Details
Current Great Leap Forward (Order T2 tenet):
Receive a free Technology. Spies gain Network Points at double the normal rate. +1 :c5science: Science in Cities for every 3 non-Specialist :c5citizen: Citizens.

Proposed version:
Receive a free Technology. Spies gain +100% :c5science: Science from the Surveillance mission. +1 :c5science: Science in Cities for every 3 non-Specialist :c5citizen: Citizens.

Rationale:
The current effect is an oversight (I didn't notice a second espionage tenet in Order). There's never meant to be any percentage modifiers on NP other than security.
As the old Great Leap Forward used to "steal technologies at double the normal rate" (however that worked), the best match here would be doubling the :c5science: Science rate on the passive mission.
 
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