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Proposal:
Add "Starts with an Asamu instead of a Settler" to the UA.
Unique Civilian - Asamu (unique UnitClass)
Unlocked at Pottery ; obsoletes at Railroad
Doesn't replace Settler ; upgrades into Pioneer
Cannot be
produced
Must be purchased with
Gold and does not consume 
Citizens when purchased
Can
move immediatly once purchased
Only one can exist at the same time
2 MP / 2 Vision
Elisha's Guile - Withdraw before melee (once per turn) ; +1 Vision on land and when embarked ; can Embark
Can be expended to found a City. When founding a City, provides a free Lighthouse.
UMU2 - Atlas Elephant (replaces Horseman)
Unlocked at Trade (instead of Military Theory) => same tech tier
120 Production cost / 200 
Faith cost (+30 / +50)
Doesn't require Horse
16
CS (+3)
3 Moves / 2 Vision (-1)
Can move after attacking
At the Gates ! - +20 max HP ; can cross Mountains
Feared Elephant - -10% CS to adjacent enemy Units ; lost upon upgrade
No Terrain Defense
Attack malus against Cities
Change to Ivory Monopoly -
No longer unlocks the war elephant
Resource provides nearby city with +15% Production Modifier towards Pre-Industrial Siege units (similar to +15% Production modifier towards World Wonders for marble)
Rationale :
Now that the Suffet is out of the fight, I would like to repropose the Asamu in a version that is a bit refined (thanks to all people involved in discussion around this topic). The Gold cost no longer scales with the number of Cities, but the part where you cannot spawn a second one before expending the first preserves us from too much settling madness. To avoid too much headaches around barbarians, Elisha's Guile gives the unit bonus vision and the ability to withdraw once. For the Elephant, I like pineappledan's idea, but unfortunately Trailblazer III (and its current "+20% CS bonus in foreign land") is too difficult to balance around the stats of the elephant. We can at least give the unit the "can cross mountains" parts for thematic (and anti-Incan slinger mosquitoes) purposes. The change from Military Theory to Trade allows the civ to really have a focused tech path that leaves it vulnerable nontheless to determined land powers, since the elephant isn't without weakness : less movement, no ability to fortify or move after attacking and its mounted status makes it a potential pincushion if not used well.
[DLL] - (8-NS) 4UC Carthage
This is a thread for discussing the addition of 2 more unique components to the Carthaginian civilization. Unlike other threads, Carthage is due to go through a rework, so I cannot post a preview of the new base VP kit Proposed abilities differ from the abilities as they are implemented in...
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(8-09) 4UC Carthage: Alternate UU2 and Tophet Ability
Links: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-09-4uc-carthage.690048/ https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-09a-4uc-carthage-asamu-instead-of-tophet.690278/ https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-09b-4uc-carthage-asamu-at-sailing-instead-of-tophet.690408/ UU2 - Numidian Cavalry (replaces...
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(8-09a) 4UC Carthage With War Elephants
Proposer: @pineappledan Sponsor: @pineappledan UMU2 - Atlas Elephant (horseman) Unlocked at military strategy 125 :c5production: (35 more than horseman; same as current elephant) Does not require horses 16 :c5strength:CS 3 Moves / 2 Vision Pillars of Atlas - (+20HP; Can cross Mountains) Feared...
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[DLL] - (8-NS) 4UC Carthage - Asamu at Sailing instead of Tophet
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-09-4uc-carthage.690048/ and then https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-09a-4uc-carthage-asamu-instead-of-tophet.690278/ I'm not a huge fan of a unique Shrine, but a unique Settler is a huge change similar in scope to Merchant of Venice. It's too much...
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Proposal:
Add "Starts with an Asamu instead of a Settler" to the UA.
Unique Civilian - Asamu (unique UnitClass)
Unlocked at Pottery ; obsoletes at Railroad
Doesn't replace Settler ; upgrades into Pioneer
Cannot be
producedMust be purchased with
Gold and does not consume Citizens when purchasedCan
move immediatly once purchasedOnly one can exist at the same time
2
MP / 2 VisionElisha's Guile - Withdraw before melee (once per turn) ; +1 Vision on land and when embarked ; can Embark
Can be expended to found a City. When founding a City, provides a free Lighthouse.
UMU2 - Atlas Elephant (replaces Horseman)
Unlocked at Trade (instead of Military Theory) => same tech tier
120
Production cost / 200 Faith cost (+30 / +50)Doesn't require Horse
16
CS (+3)3
Moves / 2 Vision (-1)At the Gates ! - +20 max HP ; can cross Mountains
Feared Elephant - -10%
CS to adjacent enemy Units ; lost upon upgradeNo Terrain Defense
Attack malus against Cities
Change to Ivory Monopoly -
No longer unlocks the war elephant
Resource provides nearby city with +15%
Production Modifier towards Pre-Industrial Siege units (similar to +15% Production modifier towards World Wonders for marble)Rationale :
Now that the Suffet is out of the fight, I would like to repropose the Asamu in a version that is a bit refined (thanks to all people involved in discussion around this topic). The Gold cost no longer scales with the number of Cities, but the part where you cannot spawn a second one before expending the first preserves us from too much settling madness. To avoid too much headaches around barbarians, Elisha's Guile gives the unit bonus vision and the ability to withdraw once. For the Elephant, I like pineappledan's idea, but unfortunately Trailblazer III (and its current "+20%
CS bonus in foreign land") is too difficult to balance around the stats of the elephant. We can at least give the unit the "can cross mountains" parts for thematic (and anti-Incan slinger mosquitoes) purposes. The change from Military Theory to Trade allows the civ to really have a focused tech path that leaves it vulnerable nontheless to determined land powers, since the elephant isn't without weakness : less movement, no ability to fortify or move after attacking and its mounted status makes it a potential pincushion if not used well.
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