[Vote] (8-15) Ethiopia

[hokath]

Choose which components you want to see for Ethiopia!

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(8-15) 4UC Ethiopia

This is a thread for discussing the addition of 2 more unique components to the Ethiopian civilization.

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Proposer: @pineappledan
Sponsor: @azum4roll

Civilization: Add Hills start bias

New Unit - Chewa (replaces Longswordsman):
Available at Steel
150 Production Cost
requires 1 iron
24 CS
"Cover I"
"Maim" (On Attack reduces starting Movement of Enemy Unit by 1)
"Hooked Weapon" (25% CS vs Mounted Units. Lost after unit upgrade)

New Improvement - Monolithic Church (Worker Improvement):
available at Theology
build time - 10 turns
must be built on unfeatured Hill or Stone
cannot be adjacent to each other UNLESS it is improving Stone Resources
+1 Production and +1 Faith
Yields from Monolithic Church scale with Policies, Beliefs and Ideologies instead of technology:
+1 Culture for every Ancient Era policy tree completed
+1 Faith for every Medieval Era policy tree completed
+1 Science for every Industrial Era policy tree completed
+2 Gold for adopting an Ideology
+1 Faith for every Pantheon belief
+1 Culture for every Founder belief
+1 Production for every Follower belief
+1 Culture for every Enhancer belief
+1 Gold for Reformation belief

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(8-15a) 4UC Ethiopia: Change Mehal Sefari To Oromo Cavalry, Simplify Monolithic Church

Link: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-15-4uc-ethiopia.690015/ Mehal Sefari: removed UU1 - Oromo Cavalry (replaces Cuirassier) - Sponsor needed for unit model, flag, and icon Unlocked at Metallurgy Standard costs Requires 1 Horse 28 :c5strength: (+1) 24 :c5rangedstrength: (+2) No...

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Proposer: @azum4roll
Sponsor: @azum4roll

Civilization: Add Hills start bias

New Unit - Chewa from base proposal

New Improvement - Monolithic Church from base proposal but adjacency requirement is not bypassed when improving stone

Old Unit - Oromo Cavalry (replaces Cuirassier)
Unlocked at Metallurgy
Standard costs
Requires 1 Horse
28 (+1) 24 (+2)
No Defensive Terrain Bonuses
Can Move After Attacking
City Attack Penalty
Naval Target Penalty
Skirmisher Doctrine
Zemene Mesafint (+20% Combat Strength against Units from Unhappy Empire.)
Field I (+10% Ranged Combat Strength. +10% Ranged Combat Strength when attacking Units in Open Terrain.)

 

[hokath]

Much prefer option a) because the Safari are a waste of space unit in all respects.

 

[Rustonreddit]

Much prefer option a) because the Safari are a waste of space unit in all respects.

Yeah. I like the idea of Safari unit but it just adds nothing when playing the civ.

But, why a) doesnt have hill bias? It fits with Ethiopia terrain and with the UI.

 

[azum4roll]

But, why a) doesnt have hill bias? It fits with Ethiopia terrain and with the UI.

Hills are everywhere and are rarely absent. Stone is also more common on flatland than hills.

We're already introducing several biased civs with the addition of 4UC. Each additional one reduces the chance of a lower priority biased civ starting in their desired region.

 

[Legen]

The Mehal Sefari made more sense when Ethiopia's themes included a defensive playstyle. At least, as intended by Firaxis, not necessarily in practice. VP moved Ethiopia's UA away form that theme and the Mehal is the only thing reminiscent of it.

The Mehal's defensive theme could work if the Monolithic Church also included a defensive bonus, but it's past the point in this Congress' section.

 

[pineappledan]

My understanding is that @azum4roll has proposed a replacement of Ethiopia’s UU with a new Oromo UU using the same art assets as the current Arabian Hashemite UU. This puts us in a bit of a bind, because if his Ethiopia proposal wins and his Arabia proposal fails then we have 2 UUs for different civs that look identical.

Maybe Ethiopia and Arabia’s votes should be collapsed into a single thread?

 

[Recursive]

Timestamp post to arrange all the threads in a neat order.