(8-37a) 4UC Shoshone: Buffalo Pound Changes

[azum4roll]

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(8-37) 4UC Shoshone

This is a thread for discussing the addition of 2 more unique components to the Shoshoni civilization. Unlike other threads, the Shoshone are due to go through a rework, so I cannot post a preview of the new base VP kit

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(8-37b) 4UC Shoshone Buffalo Pound Alternative/Buff

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-37-4uc-shoshone.690045/ With or without 4UC I think that the Shoshone are underpowered (bottom 5 in AI games). The buffed UA will help but I don't think it will be sufficient on its own, therefore I propose buffing the UB in a way that further emphasizes...

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[DLL] - (8-NS) 4UC Shoshone - Replace Ancient Ruins choice with More Ruins

Original Shoshone proposal: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-37-4uc-shoshone.690045/ Counter proposal: UA - The Great Expanse Cities claim up to 4 additional tiles when acquired, and claim adjacent unowned tiles when their borders expand to a land tile of the same type. All Recon Units...

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UB - Buffalo Pound (replaces Well, blocks Water Mill)
Unlocks at Trapping
Can be built anywhere
65
1 Maintenance
+1 +2
+1 Production for every 5 Citizens in the City
+1 Food and +1 Production for every 6 tiles owned by the City

It's a trapping device and replaces Well, so Trapping (another early Ancient tech) fits it most. The tech also directly leads to Trade for Encampment so you don't have to divert to the bottom part of the tree.

 

[EndGoodSmith]

I think replacing the smokehouse would make more sense mechanically with this iteration of the buffalo pound, although it might need a small buff to compensate for having to build a smokehouse (although you do get to build water mills).

 

[pineappledan]

I agree with @EndGoodSmith

If the reason for moving the base building is flavor then maybe you should look for a different base building. The main mechanic is the yield per owned tile and that doesn’t care what the base building abilities are. In fact it might make more sense on the smokehouse which boosts camps and gives yields on expand already.

 

[azum4roll]

Maybe later (by that I mean next congress), I'm really running out of time here.

 

[hokath]

MAGI:
Slightly different buildings table needed:
Building_YieldPerXTileOwnedLocal

 

[azum4roll]

Building_YieldPerTileLocalTimes100(BuildingType, YieldType, Yield)?

 

[axatin]

Building_YieldPerTileLocalTimes100(BuildingType, YieldType, Yield)?

I can sponsor implementing that.

 

[hokath]

@axatin what about the base proposal?
This one also needs the promotion effect

 

[Recursive]

Proposal sponsored by prior agreement from @azum4roll.

 

[hokath]

It's actually already sponsored by @axatin

 

[Recursive]

Timestamp post to arrange all the threads in a neat order.