(8-44c) azum4roll's Counterproposal To His Own Proposal

[azum4roll]

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(8-44) azum4roll's Unit Supply Rework

Host Notes: This proposal was originally made in Session #7 in this discussion thread. I decided to code it as a modmod (which you can download here or on the OP of the 4.11 release thread) so that the community could playtest the changes before voting on them. As the work is essentially done...

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(8-44a) azum4roll's Unit Supply Rework

This proposal is the exact same as: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-44-azum4rolls-unit-supply-rework.690583/ Except that "Difficulty-based Supply from Population" is set to 25 (from 20) and "Supply from Population Tech Divisor" is set to 50 (from 100). This effectively gives more...

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(8-44b) Reduce lategame supply and supply from puppets + some tweaks

Counterproposal to (8-44) azum4roll's Unit Supply Rework Problems: 1) So, proposed rework feels great during early game but run out of control in the lategame almost as previous version. It's all mostly caused by too much supply from population: by the last turn (information era) there were 56...

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(8-44c) Supply rework by adjusting city's base HP

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/8-44-azum4rolls-unit-supply-rework.690583/ Proposed changes: Reduce city's base HP to 200 from 300 Implement Yngwie's puppet nerf idea: Puppet Cities provide 20% supply :c5war: from all sources (Venice get 50%) same as for yields. (Imho Venice is the...

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Everything's same as the original proposal, except:

1. Reduce city's base HP from 300 to 250. Reduce HP per population from 10 to 8. Reduce HP from Walls from 125 to 100.

Early war needs a buff with the supply reduction, but city CS also affects the damage done to units, which is fine right now. Reducing HP should be the way to go.​

2. Increase "Difficulty Flat Supply Bonus" by a further +2 across all difficulties and AI.

This should solve the early supply problem without affecting late game.​

 

[Rekk]

If pdan isn't allowed to counterpropose his own proposals, why do you think you are able to do yours?

 

[azum4roll]

Because I didn't propose the original (8-44). pdan can edit his proposals, while I can't change mine.

 

[Rekk]

Hilarious

 

[hokath]

Makes sense though right, Rekk? Recursive is the proposer.

 

[Pipiskus]

I was playing games with 200 base hp and 8 hp per citizen but with supply divisor up to 150 and it was fine, some cities were captured, but i believe they would be captured anyway because Ai doesnt care for defences at all. After playing this game i believe we don't need to buff supply while decreasing city's hp, it should be quite the opposite but not to the point of what have been done by me, the average nation with 70 population up in Renaicance had 34 supply, it would have been 44 in Original version, i cant imagine how hard civs would go with another two supply on top of this. Cities at my rework would have 405 at 10 pop with walls, yours will be 430 but with 12 more units, i dont know man, seems a little unbalanced. But it is just speculations, only testing can show the real picture. Maybe its fine in the end of the day, hard to say

 

[Recursive]

Makes sense though right, Rekk? Recursive is the proposer.

Bureaucrat hokath, you are technically correct. The best kind of correct!

I hereby promote you to Grade 37.

Sponsored.

 

[Recursive]

Timestamp post to arrange all the threads in a neat order.