That would be my vote as well. cripp7 can even play it himself with identical moves, just drop the scientists.
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That would be my vote as well. cripp7 can even play it himself with identical moves, just drop the scientists.
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
Wow didn't even notice the rule being broken. Yeah we'll have to replay the set, and for punishment Cripp has to do it.
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Okay okay. I can't believe I actually did that! I still have my notes and still written them down. So I don't mind playing it again.
In hindsight I shouldn't have hired the scientists. Looking at the two cities that Wang has, I'd be inclined to take those two cities and leave the rest of the continent for him. Not having to raze any,. We would only have to "you declared war on us" (does that always stay or does it fade over time?).
So the choice is up to for you as the team:
Replay or reroll? Since we already know future events, I'm still not too sure about the GP farm being NE of the pig.
Or just reroll a new game?
In hindsight I shouldn't have hired the scientists. Looking at the two cities that Wang has, I'd be inclined to take those two cities and leave the rest of the continent for him. Not having to raze any,. We would only have to "you declared war on us" (does that always stay or does it fade over time?).
So the choice is up to for you as the team:
Replay or reroll? Since we already know future events, I'm still not too sure about the GP farm being NE of the pig.
Or just reroll a new game?
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
Don't mind too much, whatever the team as a whole decides.
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
Just replay the set, that's fine.
Thy_Spellcraft
King
Replay is fine for sure! And I too would rather vote for making our upcoming city our science one!
cripp7
Playin' Bored
I lost my whole TV/Phone/Internet on monday night, just got it back for the moment. I'll replay, science city with all the rivers. but don't know when I can post it, hopefully tomorrow.
I'm in Texas and we had a bad ice storm, at least I have heat!!
I'm in Texas and we had a bad ice storm, at least I have heat!!
cripp7
Playin' Bored
So just to be clear, we are settling the 1NE pig site for our commerce city?
Thy_Spellcraft
King
In case you meant the science-city the answer should be yes!
cripp7
Playin' Bored
Replay
IHT-
2pop
worker
Turn 96-
Capital worker > library
cottage done, send worker to connect with Wang
settler keeps going to pig site
Turn 97-
workers chop in Cap
Turn 98-
settle Science city start obelisk
Turn 99-
Conf spreads to Science so I switch granary
Turn 100-
Capital library > axe
barbs are starting to encroach now
Turn 101-
chop goes into axe for barb archer
Turn 102-
Capital axe > settler
axe kills barb archer on our corn
Money hires archer for encroaching barb
Turn 103-
Science city archer gets attacked twice, promoted to CGI
Money archer
chop into settler
Turn 104-
IW > Alpha
Capital switch to archer
cancel cottage for iron
Turn 105-
Money archer gets attacked twice, promoted to CI and moves SW to fogbust
Turn 106-
chop into settler
Turn 107-
zzz
Turn 108-
road to Wang +2
to 0%
2 workers mine iron while the other goes towards Money
Turn 109-
Capyal settler > archer
settler goes to Naval Port
Turn 110-
archer fends off barb archer
Turn 111-
Capital archer > worker spam
settler ready 1N of marble to settle
That's 15 turns, no scientists hired and followed same plan.
I think Capital should worker spam now for all the jungle.
Money City will border pop next turn to block Wang to the east somewhat.
Wang did settle the gold fish to our NE
IHT-
2pop
workerTurn 96-
Capital worker > library
cottage done, send worker to connect with Wang
settler keeps going to pig site
Turn 97-
workers chop in Cap
Turn 98-
settle Science city start obelisk
Turn 99-
Conf spreads to Science so I switch granary
Turn 100-
Capital library > axe
barbs are starting to encroach now
Turn 101-
chop goes into axe for barb archer
Turn 102-
Capital axe > settler
axe kills barb archer on our corn
Money hires archer for encroaching barb
Turn 103-
Science city archer gets attacked twice, promoted to CGI
Money
archerchop into settler
Turn 104-
IW > Alpha
Capital switch to archer
cancel cottage for iron
Turn 105-
Money archer gets attacked twice, promoted to CI and moves SW to fogbust
Turn 106-
chop into settler
Turn 107-
zzz
Turn 108-
road to Wang +2
to 0%2 workers mine iron while the other goes towards Money
Turn 109-
Capyal settler > archer
settler goes to Naval Port
Turn 110-
archer fends off barb archer
Turn 111-
Capital archer > worker spam
settler ready 1N of marble to settle
That's 15 turns, no scientists hired and followed same plan.
I think Capital should worker spam now for all the jungle.
Money City will border pop next turn to block Wang to the east somewhat.
Wang did settle the gold fish to our NE
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
Ok looking at the save, settler 1N of the marble is for naval city right? Just making sure, and the BFC outlined down in the SW is military or prod?
As regards tech I think get to c.160g before putting on the tap again to get Alpha. After that we could go for Aesth>Lit for the GLib in Science. Otherwise it's the usual Maths>Curr route. I like the GLib especially for the variant but if we are going to REX a Currency run would help.
On builds we need to whip out workers in all our cities, 3 is not enough for the set-up period. So I'll be looking towards doing that as soon as possible everywhere. The cap could also get out another Settler>Archer combo too for the SW city.
Science is to be mainly farmed (with cottages thrown in) and Money the opposite, mostly cottages, some farms.
As regards foreign relations, it's a pity we only have copper to give Wang to try and cement Friendly early, I'd consider it especially as we're about to hook up our iron. But if we're considering a war then I'd rather keep him away from the metals as long as possible.
I'll play either tomorrow or Sunday, depending on what time I get up.
As regards tech I think get to c.160g before putting on the tap again to get Alpha. After that we could go for Aesth>Lit for the GLib in Science. Otherwise it's the usual Maths>Curr route. I like the GLib especially for the variant but if we are going to REX a Currency run would help.
On builds we need to whip out workers in all our cities, 3 is not enough for the set-up period. So I'll be looking towards doing that as soon as possible everywhere. The cap could also get out another Settler>Archer combo too for the SW city.
Science is to be mainly farmed (with cottages thrown in) and Money the opposite, mostly cottages, some farms.
As regards foreign relations, it's a pity we only have copper to give Wang to try and cement Friendly early, I'd consider it especially as we're about to hook up our iron. But if we're considering a war then I'd rather keep him away from the metals as long as possible.
I'll play either tomorrow or Sunday, depending on what time I get up.
Hmm... according to variant, the spot should be our military city. "best EARLY location of a production". That would be fine by me, we have other spots for naval cities.
Another thing I'm wondering is why Alphabet now? Only thing that comes to my mind is Monarchy trade with Wang later on, but otherwise there's not much to trade. He's not friendly yet. I feel like we would be better off with Mathematics -> Calendar and maybe Mononotheism for organized religion.
Speaking of research, we need Fishing for our next city and can research it in 3 turns. I suggest we do that right away.
Some dotmap attemps (mostly stolen ideas
). Please comment and suggest alternatives 
First near our core:
Definitely not sure about production site, but it has a lot of hills and lot of grasslands... Please find a better alternative especially for this!
Then it get's even more tricky... Far far to the south:
Yeah, that far
So I'll just throw this option out here again:
Another thing I'm wondering is why Alphabet now? Only thing that comes to my mind is Monarchy trade with Wang later on, but otherwise there's not much to trade. He's not friendly yet. I feel like we would be better off with Mathematics -> Calendar and maybe Mononotheism for organized religion.
Speaking of research, we need Fishing for our next city and can research it in 3 turns. I suggest we do that right away.
Some dotmap attemps (mostly stolen ideas
). Please comment and suggest alternatives First near our core:
Definitely not sure about production site, but it has a lot of hills and lot of grasslands... Please find a better alternative especially for this!
Then it get's even more tricky... Far far to the south:
Yeah, that far
So I'll just throw this option out here again:
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
Well I think our "gloroius" leader (well glorious for a Phoenix Rising member 
) has decided to fudge the rules a bit on the city site with the settler.
And maybe you're right on the cottages in science city too. I was thinking more in the lines of a Caste science city.
Problem with your proposed production city is that it clashes with the good naval site down the coast (in that they'll be sharing hills unless we go all out plains/desert for naval base). But I cannot see to much else, without having a big hole in the middle of our core.
) has decided to fudge the rules a bit on the city site with the settler.And maybe you're right on the cottages in science city too. I was thinking more in the lines of a Caste science city.
Problem with your proposed production city is that it clashes with the good naval site down the coast (in that they'll be sharing hills unless we go all out plains/desert for naval base). But I cannot see to much else, without having a big hole in the middle of our core.
True, that's the reason why I moved it 1S from the original Matrix's proposal. Loses only one hill, and shares one with production site. If we make this Naval site, coast becomes an ok tile with Moai, so not a big deal.
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
Yeah my thoughts on that too, I'll wait and see if there're more ideas on this area though.
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