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83% of US doctors considering quitting because of Obamacare

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Dreadnought, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Dreadnought

    Dreadnought Deity

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    There's even worse news, too:

    Source: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/r...tors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/

    What are your reactions? It seems to me that the new healthcare situation is corrupting the current situation even more. I for one will not consider entering medical school at all, with the new healthcare system evolving.

    I apologize for any errors; I'm posting via mobile.
     
  2. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Funny that Google has no hits on this from news organizations....
     
  3. Turquoiside

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    :lol: @ only 669 out of 16, 227 responses being included in the final calculation.
     
  4. Quintillus

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    Well, I highly doubt that 83% of doctors will end up quitting their jobs. It's worth noting that the sample size isn't gigantic, so I'm skeptical the percentage would be nearly as high if the survey cast a wider net.

    There is an issue for doctors in that generally, private-pay patients pay the most, followed by insured patients, followed by Medicare. So I suppose if you theorize that the influx of lower-end patients might push your primary care doctor's patient mix to a slightly less wealthy mix, lowering per-patient revenue. There's also the issue that with insurance, there will be higher demand for primary care physicians (although possibly lower for acute care if preventative care is received where it wasn't before).

    But I guess I don't see what the big issue for doctors is. And the article really doesn't shed any light on this, either. For primary care doctors, it seems like it would increase the number of potential patients, which is good if you aren't already at capacity at your practice. And the new patients are still going to be a revenue source, if not the most lucrative.
     
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    Leonel Breakfast Connoisseur

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    So much for the Hippocratic oath. I guess that was just more something to pat themselves on the back with.
     
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    I dont believe this number, but I complained back when the law was passed that not nearly enough was being done to add more medical professionals. We have shortages across the board and the bill really failed to address that problem. At the end of the day I fear rationing could occur by necessity.
     
  8. downtown

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    I can't understand at all why you would rule out Medical School because of this ruling.

    As for addressing doctor shortage, the only way we'll be able to fix this is by either making immigration easier, or by significantly improving STEM education...neither of which are likely to be addressed in a health care bill.
     
  9. peter grimes

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    Umm, there's already a severe shortage of GP's, and that's been a trend for the last 25-30 years. Why? Because of the perverse incentives the current system fosters. You can make serious bank of you are a specialist.

    Cuba has a more efficient health care system than the US, and it's in large part due to the incentive structure.

    This is NOT rocket science. But it IS influenced by the corporate status-quo, which is why we see garbage in = garbage out.
     
  10. Formaldehyde

    Formaldehyde Both Fair And Balanced

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    The Daily Caller? Really? The National Enquirer and Conservapedia were offline?
     
  11. Cynovolans

    Cynovolans Not in my dimension.

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    I was going through the study and read some of the reactions of the doctors. Some were funny, some were weird, and some are just sad.

    Some of the doctor replies are more fitting for youtube than a study.
     
  12. JollyRoger

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    With increased demand, why would anyone quit? Looks like a goldmine.
     
  13. Formaldehyde

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    What are they going to do instead? Join the military? Work at McDonalds?
     
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    Have tea parties
     
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  16. emzie

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    I normally try and write detailed, sensical rebuttals but bwahaahahaahaahahahahaahaha what a worthless survey. No point even discussing this thread really.
     
  17. Zelig

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    I consider quitting lots of jobs quite frequently, even if they're awesome, I don't see how this is noteworthy?

    If your job changes, you need to consider whether you want to stay at your job or look for something different. Same deal if your life situation changes.
     
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    Dammit Forma you stole my post!
     
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    Doctors are people too.
     

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