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Motivation/Rationale
Japan currently has some bloat yields tied to erecting buildings, which are unrelated to the civ's major focuses of rewarding fighting and generating great cultural people. These yields were added when the "Stronger when wounded" part of Japan's old UA was moved to the Dojo (and adapted to the current Eight Virtues of Bushido promotion; no longer applies to all unit types, but extra bonuses to the few that do), since that move meant Japan no longer had anything going on for its early game. But it didn't come without implications; you spend two eras focused on a minor bonus that has little to do with Japan's two major focuses. The Japan you play with in the first two eras is fundamentally different from the one you play once you enter Medieval Era.
This proposal largely reverts that old change. The Dojo's promotion (in its current form) goes back to the UA, replacing the "yields on Defense buildings" that was added to cover the gap left by that move. This realigns Japan's design between pre-Medieval Eras, and at/post Medieval Eras; you should no longer be playing with two fundamentally different designs.
To still have a power spike at Medieval, we move the Kabuki's yields on
GWAM birth to the Dojo and adapt it to the latter's martial theme and yields, filling the gap left from moving the Virtues of Bushido promotion to the UA. This aligns this bonus with the timing in which Japan is bound to suddenly generate a lot of related 
Great People; as it is now, the Kabuki's effect only comes into play when the sudden burst of GWAMs already happened, feeling like a waste. The yields are adjusted to a more linear scaling, so that its yields at Medieval aren't a complete disappointment, nor it is the late game balance nightmare it was at times during the 4UC modmod.
On the Kabuki itself, we replace it for a Torii GPTI, an alternative use for GWAM over creating a Great Work. This unique GPTI will provide Japan a way to expend GWAM for their late game scaling without need for GW slots, and further enhances the reward of proccing the civ's UA. This is much better aligned with Japan's major focus on cultural people than the two elements this proposal removes, the yields on Defense buildings and the Kabuki's TR effect.
The Torii combines the scaling of Great Works (with similar considerations as the 8-24d proposal) and Holy Sites, detailed below.
At the proposed scaling, it should provide a comparable amount of bonus yields to the Celtic Oppidum, an UGPTI that it mirrors in function; the latter provides up to +17 yields over a regular GPTI (an extra +1 base, up to +12 to adjacent tiles, an extra +4 from tech scaling), the Torii provides a similar amount over a great work + regular improvement (many improvements add between +6 to +14 to their tile as technology improves, the Torii adds up to +24 after discountingGW base yields and scaling).
Moreover, the Torii adds +1
global Happiness (same code as landmark's happiness), accounting that Great Works can provide 1 for every 3 GWs with Artistry's Cultural Exchange policy. This makes the Torii generate 3 times more Happiness than that policy, but this can be treated as a bonus of being an unique component. The bulb scaling of each individual Torii matches the average effect of a great work: Writers gain +3% from every great work, Artists gain +20% per themed building/wonder in the empire (most themes have 2 GWs) and Musicians gain 1 turn per work of Music (Musicians can be approximated to be 1/3 of your great cultural people, especially with Artistry's faith purchase finisher).
Proposal
3D model by Firaxis, improvement icon by JFD (6th image).
Implementation Notes
This uses existing database code.
Requires DLL changes.
References
(8-24d) proposal, whoseGW scaling is referenced.
(8-10a) proposal, which sets the scaling of the mentioned Celtic Oppidum.
Japan (Jimmu) by JFD, where the Torii icon comes from. Includes its original Game Info in Civilopedia (6th image).
steamcommunity.com
Amendments
Japan currently has some bloat yields tied to erecting buildings, which are unrelated to the civ's major focuses of rewarding fighting and generating great cultural people. These yields were added when the "Stronger when wounded" part of Japan's old UA was moved to the Dojo (and adapted to the current Eight Virtues of Bushido promotion; no longer applies to all unit types, but extra bonuses to the few that do), since that move meant Japan no longer had anything going on for its early game. But it didn't come without implications; you spend two eras focused on a minor bonus that has little to do with Japan's two major focuses. The Japan you play with in the first two eras is fundamentally different from the one you play once you enter Medieval Era.
This proposal largely reverts that old change. The Dojo's promotion (in its current form) goes back to the UA, replacing the "yields on Defense buildings" that was added to cover the gap left by that move. This realigns Japan's design between pre-Medieval Eras, and at/post Medieval Eras; you should no longer be playing with two fundamentally different designs.
To still have a power spike at Medieval, we move the Kabuki's yields on
GWAM birth to the Dojo and adapt it to the latter's martial theme and yields, filling the gap left from moving the Virtues of Bushido promotion to the UA. This aligns this bonus with the timing in which Japan is bound to suddenly generate a lot of related Great People; as it is now, the Kabuki's effect only comes into play when the sudden burst of GWAMs already happened, feeling like a waste. The yields are adjusted to a more linear scaling, so that its yields at Medieval aren't a complete disappointment, nor it is the late game balance nightmare it was at times during the 4UC modmod.On the Kabuki itself, we replace it for a Torii GPTI, an alternative use for
GWAM over creating a Great Work. This unique GPTI will provide Japan a way to expend GWAM for their late game scaling without need for GW slots, and further enhances the reward of proccing the civ's UA. This is much better aligned with Japan's major focus on cultural people than the two elements this proposal removes, the yields on Defense buildings and the Kabuki's TR effect.The Torii combines the scaling of Great Works (with similar considerations as the 8-24d proposal) and Holy Sites, detailed below.
Spoiler Tech and building scaling for Great Works and Holy Sites :
At the proposed scaling, it should provide a comparable amount of bonus yields to the Celtic Oppidum, an UGPTI that it mirrors in function; the latter provides up to +17 yields over a regular GPTI (an extra +1 base, up to +12 to adjacent tiles, an extra +4 from tech scaling), the Torii provides a similar amount over a great work + regular improvement (many improvements add between +6 to +14 to their tile as technology improves, the Torii adds up to +24 after discounting
GW base yields and scaling).Moreover, the Torii adds +1
global Happiness (same code as landmark's happiness), accounting that Great Works can provide 1 for every 3 GWs with Artistry's Cultural Exchange policy. This makes the Torii generate 3 times more Happiness than that policy, but this can be treated as a bonus of being an unique component. The bulb scaling of each individual Torii matches the average effect of a great work: Writers gain +3% from every great work, Artists gain +20% per themed building/wonder in the empire (most themes have 2 GWs) and Musicians gain 1 turn per work of Music (Musicians can be approximated to be 1/3 of your great cultural people, especially with Artistry's faith purchase finisher).Proposal
- UA has the following changes:
- Loses "+1
Culture and 
Faith from Defense Buildings." - Gains "Non-Recon Land Melee Units start with the Eight Virtues of Bushido Promotion." (same as Dojo, including unit types)
- Loses "+1
- Dojo has the following changes:
- Loses "Non-Recon Land Melee Units start with the Eight Virtues of Bushido Promotion." (moved to UA)
- Gains "On Great General or Great Admiral birth in this City, gain 100% of your Culture per turn as
Science and Culture." (adapted from Kabuki's yields on GWAM birth, adaptations underlined)
- Kabuki replaced by Torii, an unique GPTI with the following traits:
- Can be built by Great Writers, Great Artists and Great Musicians.
- Can be built in Land tiles, removes features (Forest, Jungle, Marsh), connects resources.
- Base yields: 5 3
4 - Tech scaling (combines Great Work and Holy Site scaling):
- Drama and Poetry: +4 +3
- Acoustics: +2 +4
- Archaeology: +7 +3
- Radio: +4 +12 +5
- Drama and Poetry: +4
- Receives yields from the National/Reformation Wonders of Founder beliefs, as if it were a Holy Site (e.g. +5 from Council of Elders' NW, +5
from Hero Worship's). - Boosts the bulb effect of Great Writers (+3%), Artists (+10%) and Musicians (1/3 of a turn).
- +1 global Happiness on construction (similar to landmarks).
- New Deal: +2
3D model by Firaxis, improvement icon by JFD (6th image).
Spoiler Torii's Civilopedia's Game Info in the original Japan (Jimmu) mod by JFD :
Implementation Notes
This uses existing database code.
Requires DLL changes.
References
(8-24d) proposal, whose
GW scaling is referenced.(8-10a) proposal, which sets the scaling of the mentioned Celtic Oppidum.
Japan (Jimmu) by JFD, where the Torii icon comes from. Includes its original Game Info in Civilopedia (6th image).
Steam Workshop::Japan (Jimmu)
Amendments
- Amendment 1:
- Kabuki is now replaced by the Torii UGPTI, instead of having its trade route ability modified.
- Title and Rationale adjusted accordingly.
- Amendment 2:
- Dojo gains an adapted version of Kabuki's GWAM birth that procs on Great General/Admiral birth instead, yields adjusted.
- Rationale adjusted accordingly.
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Great Person is born in this City: Gain 
Gold equal to 5% of the amount of 
Culture from its Write Political Treatise Mission (if applicable)
Science equal to 2% of the amount of 
Golden Age Points from its Start a Golden Age Mission (if applicable)
