A Brave New World

[TheLastJacobite]

To Brazil
From New England

For too long, Brazil has been the bully of South America, forcing its will upon all those around it. Now, the people you have subjugated have raised arms and taken leave from your nation and that scares you. So you have turned to a bully even larger than yourself to crush those who refuse to bend to your will. We will not throw our new allies and training partners to the Prussian and Brazilian wolves. Instead, we will now give you this opportunity to recognize the independence of Uruguay and Rio do Sol without further bloodshed before anything...unpleasant happens.

 

[Crezth]

To: Brazil
From: France

We refuse to give an affirmative on this issue and will abstain from a response. For the time being we will wait and watch, however we will not offer the rebellions the security of French aid either.

 

[ace_3399]

Can I join this one? No one responded in the other thread.

 

[Stormbringer]

To France and New England

Once again, Brazil asks for your help in ending the conflict, not by military force, but by diplomacy, should it be possible.

We ask France and New England to mediate the dispute and to help us arrive at a resolution that is suitable to both Brazil and the rebels. Brazil does not have an absolute objection to the independence of these two states, and we believe that compromise is possible, as long as France and New England do not chose to encourage further conflict.

Can France or New England disagree that Brazil has been entirely reasonable in our requests for rebel concessions? After all, the rebels have made it their goal to inflict as much damage on Brazilian lands and people as possible, while Brazil has taken great care not to harm civilians caught in this conflict. And is it really too much to ask for a guarantee that the new independent states will not pursue further conflict with Brazil?

We hope that both New England and France will chose to help Brazil resolve this conflict peacefully, something we are entirely committed to, rather than continue to promote conflict by emboldening the rebels in Brazil.

 

[Kentharu]

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[Stormbringer]

Can I join this one? No one responded in the other thread.

I don't see why not, there are a lot of South American nations open and a few in Europe. But obviously EQ is the man to ask.

 

[Crezth]

To: Brazil
From: France

Perhaps you should forget the reparations as the aggressor with regards to them is gone, and negotiate a non-aggression pact in its place.

 

[sp1023]

OOC: Orders sent.

 

[Stormbringer]

To: Brazil
From: France

Perhaps you should forget the reparations as the aggressor with regards to them is gone, and negotiate a non-aggression pact in its place.

To France

If the rebels were willing to negotiate we would continue to negotiate, perhaps reducing the payment for the damages that Brazil suffered, but when we proposed an agreement to the government of Uruguay we were rebuffed with the indication that no further negotiations would take place.

Uruguay was not responsible for much damage to Brazil, and previously the government of Uruguay had agreed to pay for these damages. But when we added the condition that Uruguay should not be a danger to Brazil in the future Uruguay refused.

How should we take such a response? It would seem to us that Uruguay is planning to indeed be a threat to Brazil and to cause further damage to Brazil, otherwise why would they refuse an agreement whose only goal was to prevent that?

And now with the apparent backing of France and New England both of the rebel camps refuse any further negotiations, thereby taking away any and all chances of a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

We again must implore you to use the gravity of your voice and pressure to help resolve the situation peacefully.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: Brazil
From: Uruguay

Do you take us for fools? We would NEVER allow Brazilian troops to be stationed in our territory, nor will we allow your government to exploit our people. It has taken us thirty years to achieve our freedom, and we will sooner fight than give up our rights as a nation. We offered to pay part of the reparations, but you rebuffed our approach. If you accept our more than reasonable offer, then the fight concludes, otherwise, we will be forced to unleash our secret weapon upon you.

To: Brazil
From: Rio Grande du Sol

As it becomes apparent our allies in Uruguay wish to seek peace, we are willing to extend upon their offer by paying for damages claimed in the raids by our more enthusiastic gauchos. However, we will only pay to the civilians who make such claims, and not to the Brazilian government. We believe that should be more than suitable. Once more, we do have significant support and we will not hesitate to fight even against the Prussian dogs.

 

[Stormbringer]

To the rebels in Uruguay

Brazil welcomes the decision of the rebel leadership to resume negotiations. We take into account the issues brought up by the rebel leadership and offer the following framework for an agreement:

1. Uruguay will assist Brazil in all efforts against the do Sol rebels if no agreement is reached with the rebel leadership in do Sol.

3. Uruguay and Brazil will maintain no economic barriers to their respective companies wishing to conduct business in either country.

4. Uruguay will not enter into any international agreements with third parties that are potentially dangerous to Brazil while Brazil will guarantee the security and independence of Uruguay.

5. Uruguay and Brazil will both maintain freedom for their respective citizens to move between the two countries.

6. Uruguay will pay Brazilian citizens for its respective share of the damages to Brazilian lands over the course war.

We are happy to hear any further issues the rebel leadership in Uruguay has with the framework.


To the rebels in do Sol

Brazil welcomes the decision of the rebel leadership to negotiate and offers the following framework for the peace agreement:

1. Do Sol will allow Brazilian army and navy to maintain a presence in Do Sol.

3. Do Sol will maintain no economic barriers to Brazilian companies and merchants wishing to do business in Do Sol.

4. Do Sol will not enter into any international agreements with third parties that are potentially dangerous to Brazil.

5. Do Sol and Brazil will both maintain freedom for their respective citizens to move between the two countries.

6. Do Sol will pay Brazilian citizens for its respective share of the damages to Brazilian lands over the war.

We are eager to receive the response of the rebel leadership in Do Sol to the framework.

 

[Crezth]

To: Rio Grande du Sol, Uruguay, Brazil
From: France

After examining the facts we have decided upon this unliateral peace agreement for all involved:

1. Du Sol, Uruguay, and Brazil will all sign a 10-year pact of non-aggression.
2. France will guarantee the independence of Du Sol, Uruguay, and Brazil, acting on behalf of any of these three nations if the pact of non-aggression is broken.
3. Du Sol and Uruguay will pay Brazil reparations as desired by Brazil.
4. There will be a 16-mile demilitarized zone on the Brazilian half of its borders with Uruguay and Du Sol.
5. Uruguay, Du Sol, and Brazil will all have sovereignty on the high seas and will share naval access rights.
6. Uruguay, Du Sol, and Brazil will sign an agreement of fair and open trade between their three nations.
7. Brazil will promise never to compromise the integrity of the political sovereignty of Uruguay or Du Sol.
8. Although free trade is stipulated in point 6, this same liberty does not extend to movement of people, only goods and services. Du Sol and Uruguay will have the right to deny movement of Brazilian citizens in their borders.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: BRazil and France
From: Uruguay

We would prefer the French proposed treaty, but we would be willing to accept the Brazilian proposal assuming that the fourth clause is dropped. We will determine our own foreign policy and affairs.

To: Brazil and France
From: Rio Grande du Sol

We outright reject the Brazilian proposal. No clause within it has any resemblance of fairness or justice to our people. We however will willingly accept the French proposal for peace and heartily recommend that Brazil considers the offer made by the French Empire.

 

[Tyrion]

To Ireland
From England:

We are sure if english people were caught doing similar things in Ireland they would no doubt never be heard from again. But we are not about to start a war over at worst the foolish meddlings of an impotent government. Go about your business, we are wuite happy here researching genetics and keeping to ourselves.

 

[Crezth]

To: Morocco
From: France

French memories last a long time. However we feel it has been long enough since your atrocious piracy. If you renounce your pirating ways, we will agree to open up trade with your nation as well as the North African Alliance again.

 

[Stormbringer]

To the rebels in Uruguay and do Sol and the government of France

Brazil welcomes French input into the negotiation process and we are glad to have an impartial mediator to help reach a settlement of the dispute.

Brazil is puzzled by the time limit on the non-aggression pact that France proposes. It is our view that should one nation wish to attack another a non-aggression pact will not stop that attack, and a non-aggression pact with a time limit makes even less sense. Instead we propose to put in place agreements that make it disadvantageous and difficult for do Sol, Uruguay, and Brazil to come into conflict.

Further, Brazil is not satisfied by a simple agreement to non-aggression. There has to be an agreement that forbids do Sol and Uruguay from aiding any potential enemies of Brazil, as we do not wish to grant independence to these nations and to simple see them used as bases for a future attack against Brazil.

Brazil further welcomes French suggestion of a mandated free-trade area between the three countries, but we must go further. There has to be an agreement in place that will guarantee equal treatment to Brazilian companies and citizens in do Sol and Uruguay. We will not see people who simply happened to be on the wrong side of the border in this war discriminated against.

Finally Brazil notes that Uruguay and do Sol have both agreed to pay for the damages caused to Brazilian citizens during the course of the war, and these payments must be a part of any settlement to the conflict. These payments, as the rebel leaders of do Sol have suggested, may be made directly to Brazilian citizens and not the government of Brazil.

We have no further issues with the points proposed by the government of France.

 

[TheLastJacobite]

To the rebels in Uruguay and do Sol and the government of France

Brazil welcomes French input into the negotiation process and we are glad to have an impartial mediator to help reach a settlement of the dispute.

Brazil is puzzled by the time limit on the non-aggression pact that France proposes. It is our view that should one nation wish to attack another a non-aggression pact will not stop that attack, and a non-aggression pact with a time limit makes even less sense. Instead we propose to put in place agreements that make it disadvantageous and difficult for do Sol, Uruguay, and Brazil to come into conflict.

Further, Brazil is not satisfied by a simple agreement to non-aggression. There has to be an agreement that forbids do Sol and Uruguay from aiding any potential enemies of Brazil, as we do not wish to grant independence to these nations and to simple see them used as bases for a future attack against Brazil.

Brazil further welcomes French suggestion of a mandated free-trade area between the three countries, but we must go further. There has to be an agreement in place that will guarantee equal treatment to Brazilian companies and citizens in do Sol and Uruguay. We will not see people who simply happened to be on the wrong side of the border in this war discriminated against.

Finally Brazil notes that Uruguay and do Sol have both agreed to pay for the damages caused to Brazilian citizens during the course of the war, and these payments must be a part of any settlement to the conflict. These payments, as the rebel leaders of do Sol have suggested, may be made directly to Brazilian citizens and not the government of Brazil.

We have no further issues with the points proposed by the government of France.

As we understood it, the Non Aggression pacts were to keep Brazil from attacking their southern neighbors, not the other way around. And if Brazilian citizens within Uruguay and Rio do Sol are not not breaking the law, then they have no reason to fear unlawful prosecution.

 

[sp1023]

As we understood it, the Non Aggression pacts were to keep Brazil from attacking their southern neighbors, not the other way around. And if Brazilian citizens within Uruguay and Rio do Sol are not not breaking the law, then they have no reason to fear unlawful prosecution.

OOC: Actually, they might. Uruguay and De Sol might take out their frustration and hatred toward the Brazilian government by prosecuting, jailing, seizing, and/or genociding the Brazilian people in their countries.

 

[Kentharu]

Though Prussia stands by Brazil in whatever decision, we do see the wisdom of the French peace agreement. However we think that the Brazilian peace with Uruguayan's is a more balanced treaty. That being said we think the Du Sol should not be extended the same curtsy and they should be dealt with separately.

Further more, as Brazil stated, families should not be torn apart simply because they were on the wrong side of this war. There are some who had nothing to do with this conflict. Those families should allowed to reunite with their loved ones, to bar such a union would be a grievous error on all our parts.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

To: Brazil
From: Uruguay and Rio Grande du Sol

We stand united on this issue, we will not allow the stationing of Brazilian troops within either of our borders, nor will we allow you to dictate our foreign policy. We will not budge. However, we will offer gaurantees of protection to Brazilian citizens, taking note that if they do disobey our laws, they will be jailed.