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A Couple Questions

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Strategy & Tips' started by Ragnar_84, Nov 6, 2002.

  1. Ragnar_84

    Ragnar_84 Chieftain

    Oct 22, 2002
    Marin County, CA
    I've heard mentioned that you receive a free Palace jump? I can see the advantages but how does this take place? Do you or can you sell the palace in your initial Capitol or do you just contruct it elsewhere?
    I've also heard the term "abandoned City" does this occur when you starve out the population or just leave it for another Civ. to inherit? Considering razing and it effects on reputation, if abandonment makes strategic sense.
    Any clarification would be greatlu appreciated!
  2. DaveMcW

    DaveMcW Deity

    Oct 8, 2002
    If you abandon or otherwise lose your capital, the palace moves to your largest city.

    The traditional way to disband a city is to rush a settler/worker in a size 1 or 2 city that is starving. The "abandon city" menu option was added in a patch. Make sure to download patch 1.29f if you haven't yet.

    If you abandon a city with the menu option and most of the people in the city are foreigners, it counts as razing the city.
  3. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

    Apr 11, 2002
    or the real traditional way is to just rebuild the palace but as far as i know there arnt any other ways of doing it that davemcw hasnt said
  4. MadHatter

    MadHatter Warlord

    Jul 16, 2002
    Holland, PA
    I tried disbanding the city by building a worker or settler a few times, but the city just sits at the point where the production is all filled up without generating the unit...turn after turn...until the food production adds another pop unit! (yes, I have 1.29f)

    Has anyone else experienced this?
  5. Moonsinger

    Moonsinger Settler Retired Moderator

    Apr 22, 2002
    As long as your town continue to produce extra food, it would happen extractly like you described. If you want to disband your town the next turn after it produce the last settler/worker, you must make sure that it doesn't produce extra food.
  6. Bamspeedy

    Bamspeedy We'll dig up the road!

    Dec 18, 2001
    Amish Country, Wisconsin, USA
    The palace jump is kind of tricky. It doesn't always jump to the largest city. There are a couple of factors:

    1. Largest city with people of YOUR nationality. So a size 4 city with all of your citizens will be more favored than a siz 5 city that has 3 of your citizens and 2 foreigners.

    2. Culture. The city with higher culture will be more favored.

    3. Size 3 +. If no cities are size 3, then of course it will go to a size 1 or 2 city.

    So you would be pretty much guaranteed to get it to go where you want if the target city is the largest (no foreigners), highest culture, and is at least size 3. You should practice the palace jumping before trying it in a serious game.

    To abondon city, set it to build a worker or settler. For worker, you want the city at size 1, and settler, the city at size 2. Then micromanage the tiles so you have -zero growth-. Then when you complete the worker/settler, you will be asked if you want to disband the city. When you disband the city you will get a worker or settler in place of the city. Or if you have the latest patches, you can just right-click on the city and select 'abandon city' (but you won't get a worker or settler).

    Abandoning cities you just captured is treated the same as razing for your reputation. If all (or majority) of the citizens in the city are foreigners, it is still kind of considered a city of the opposing civ. Once your citizens outnumber the foreigners, you can abandon it with no rep hit. Not sure what happens when there is an equal number (1 foreigner, 1 of yours).

    If you really don't want the city and don't want any rep hit, donate it to another civ, or add your own workers, so your nationality outnumber the foreigners then abandon it. I suppose you could also leave it as a size 1 city, leaving it undefended, then get another civ to attack it and raze it (but declaring war, may not be good for rep, either).

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