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A few months later... your deal with McCain is what exactly?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Zarn, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. Zarn

    Zarn Le Républicain Catholique

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    Like him? Don't like him?

    Does he have elder statesmen written all over him, or is he an old buffoon?

    Does he get almost everything right, wrong, or somewhere in between?

    Why did you vote for him (yes, all three of you should answer for perspectives sake)? Why didn't you (if you could vote)? If you couldn't, would you have? Why or why not?

    Did it have anything to do with 1) Bush? 2) Palin? 3) McCain references to the fundamentals of the economy? (That is willingness of the workforce, BTW) 4) Thinking he would die in office? 5) Iraq? 6) Russia? 7) Iran? 8) Being Republican? 9) Obama 10) His 'center-right' stances? 11) Do you feel he is a different person than from before?

    Well, you get the picture. How much do you really know about him? Now be honest.

    What do you think are his postive traits? What do you think are his negative traits (besides the accused lack of ability to pick a running mate)?

    Final question... okay, here it goes... If McCain was a major competitor in the 2004 election against both Bush AND Kerry... for whom would you have voted? You can choose a 'minor' candidate.

    ATTENTION: This thread is not for reliving the hysteria of the 2008 election. Please keep your hysteria in a shoebox or a similar container and put it in a closet or a drawer, until you leave the thread. All violators will be ':rolleyes:ed.' Survivors will be ':rolleyes:ed,' again.
     
  2. hossam

    hossam Chieftain

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    obama is going to ruin this great country, im fleeing to switzerland. his communism wont be able to affect the swiss.

    oh btw just saw your sig, faith is for the weak of will.
     
  3. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    I think he's a cool guy and a good person, but I don't want him as my President.

    I think he has Arizona Senator written all over him. I would have liked him in Obama's cabinet, but eh.

    Good intentions, wrong way of dealing with the problems.

    n/a

    The only issue I agreed with him on was Nuclear Power.


    In 2004 I was rooting for the Republicans, but if McCain ran separately I might have supported him. I remember him from the 2000 Primaries, but only by name, it would really depend on what kind of platform he ran on. Considering the best Kerry could do was "well, I'm not Bush!" I don't know that McCain could've found anything to run on, and I doubt he would differ significantly from Bush policy-wise.

    :lol:
     
  4. silver 2039

    silver 2039 Chieftain

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    Don't care about him anymore.

    Senile old buffoon.

    Mostly wrong

    Because I voted for Obama.

    All of the above. And he sold his soul to be the party nomination.

    Before the election not much. Now a bit. Enough to decide he wouldn't have done well as president.

    Being a fairly reasonable moderate. At least he used to. Willingness to sellout his beliefs, inability to run an effective and clean campaign. General incompetence.

    Nader.
     
  5. Zarn

    Zarn Le Républicain Catholique

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    Thanks for your input Cheezy. :goodjob:

    I won't really be able to respond, until the afternoon though. It is late now.


    :rolleyes:
     
  6. hossam

    hossam Chieftain

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  7. dwaxe

    dwaxe is not a fanatic

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    My only quarrels with McCain are that he chose Palin and started pandering to the far right.

    Oh, and the fact that he's not Barack Obama :D
     
  8. Grisu

    Grisu Draghetto Moderator

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    :lol: you know that Switzerland would have overwhelmingly voted for Obama, our politics are usually more liberal than Obama's :p

    Since I'm obviously not American, I din't vote, but I would have voted for Obama. In '04, I probably would have gone with McCain over both Bush and Kerry. I do think he would have been a good president, and I would have been more undecided had he not totally crippled his team by selecting Palin.
     
  9. Arwon

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    It was rather funny/sad by the end that the case for voting for the straight-talking maverick was that he didn't buy a thing he was saying and was just pandering to get elected.
     
  10. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    Now that he's off the campaign trail, maybe he can get back to mowing my lawn.
     
  11. Bestbank Tiger

    Bestbank Tiger Chieftain

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  12. jessiecat

    jessiecat Divine Monarch

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    None. McCain is a loser. Yesterday's man. Nobody remembers 2nd. place. Maybe a footnote in my grandchild's history book. That's all folks.:deadhorse:
     
  13. amadeus

    amadeus めっちゃしんどい

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    Two words: white Obama.
     
  14. Aegis

    Aegis Chieftain

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    I think my biggest problem with McCain was that he hired the same guy who slimed him back in 2000, watched as his staff ran the dirtiest campaign I have ever seen, and then feigned innocence and claimed to walk the high-road.

    I also think he's an ass for believing women do not deserve equal pay to men.
     
  15. Nylan

    Nylan Characters Welcome

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    One could easily argue the opposite.
     
  16. Stolen Rutters

    Stolen Rutters Chieftain

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    Wow, I almost forgot about him. I remember I liked him at first, I first heard about him when he won the Michigan primary election. I did not start following that race until AFTER I skipped that Primary... I was planning to vote Democrat, and Gore was a shoe-in. I admired McCain's strategy. The Straight Talk Express was a pretty neat idea.

    He ran when Obama ran though (Obama, my first choice out of the entire field last year). McCain may actually have been high on my list of choices otherwise.

    edit - In retrospect, his reaction to the financial crisis may not have been any different if he was facing Senator Clinton or "Generic Democrat". I would have marked him down big for the erratic showboating in any case. As a moderate, I don't feel attached to a party, so it would have been easy to switch after that debacle.
     
  17. MobBoss

    MobBoss Off-Topic Overlord

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    My beef with McCain was his age (which was forgiveable to be honest - I think the guy is going to live another 20 years probably) and his false packaging.

    What I mean by 'false packaging' is this: He was sold as a firebrand, a maverick. He wasnt. In every debate against Obama he was weaksauce. He never really went on the attack, except when we got a glimmer in the last debate but by then it was too late.

    Where he did indeed act 'maverick-ish' was in his pick for Vice Pres. It was a huge gamble for him that backfired terribly. He would have done much better to have picked a governor from a battle ground state that still could have solidified the right for him.
     
  18. mrt144

    mrt144 Chieftain

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    When did you order the crow? Is it any good?
     
  19. Masquerouge

    Masquerouge Chieftain

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    I have to admit I have completely lost track of him. He seemed likeable enough before the campaign and I was looking forward to a great one, but alas I found his campaign to be a bucket of hate and fear.
     
  20. Stolen Rutters

    Stolen Rutters Chieftain

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    A quick "battleground state" search turned up Pawlenty (Minnesota), Crist (Florida), Daniels (Indiana), and Blunt (Missouri).

    Spoiler :
    Pawlenty and Crist were the only choices I was aware of before the convention.

    I left out the Republican Governors Purdue and Gibbons (from Georgia and Navada respectively) since they were never really swing states, and the rest of the swing states have Dem governors. Maybe I should leave out Daniels too, since I doubt the Republicans believed the close polling in Indiana.
     

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