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A leader who makes Mugabe seem balanced?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by bathsheba666, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. bathsheba666

    bathsheba666 Fast 'n Bulbous

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7104552.stm

    Spoiler :

    The former prime minister of Rhodesia, Ian Smith, has died aged 88.
    The cause of his death is unknown but he had been ill for some time at a residential home in South Africa.

    He illegally declared independence from Britain in 1965 and his white minority government led the country for 14 years amid international scorn and sanctions.

    Following a bitter bush war with black nationalists, his government was overthrown by Robert Mugabe in 1979, leading to the creation of Zimbabwe.

    The BBC's James Robbins says that to the end of his days Ian Smith was convinced that Rhodesians, black and white, would have fared better under his leadership than in the Zimbabwe of Robert Mugabe and his Zanu-PF party.

    Steeped in the colonial values of his Scottish immigrant father, our correspondent says Mr Smith was a born leader with a distinguished war record as an RAF fighter pilot.

    He helped to found the right-wing Rhodesian Front, which came to power in 1962, and when the-then prime minister, Winston Field, baulked at the prospect of seizing independence, the party turned to Mr Smith, who gave them what they wanted.

    Sidelined

    Years of civil war followed the declaration of independence. Ian Smith denied this was caused by the actions of his regime and insisted there was nothing wrong with five million blacks being ruled by 200,000 whites.

    In the end, Mr Smith maintained, it was not his enemies who beat him, but apartheid South Africa's threat to cut Rhodesia's lifeline.

    Margaret Thatcher's UK government brokered a peace deal in the Lancaster House talks in 1979 and a black-majority government took over Zimbabwe.

    Ian Smith remained a key player in Zimbabwean politics until seats reserved for whites were abolished in 1987.

    When in retirement, he failed to create a united opposition to Robert Mugabe, and Mr Smith was finally relegated to the sidelines.



    Good riddance to white supremacists?

    Mugabe his natural heir?
     
  2. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    Rise O voices of Rhodesia,
    God may we thy bounty share,
    Give us strength to face all danger,
    And where challenge is, to dare.

    Guide us, Lord, to wise decision,
    Ever of thy grace aware.
    Oh, let our hearts beat bravely always
    For this land within thy care.

    Rise O voices of Rhodesia,
    Bringing her your proud acclaim,
    Grandly echoing through the mountains
    Rolling over far flung plain

    Roaring in the mighty rivers
    Joining in one grand refrain
    Ascending to the sunlit heavens
    Telling of her honoured name


    Farewell, Mr. Prime Minister! You served your country honorably! :wavey:

    I'm only saddened to see that you didn't outlive Mugabe. I was kind of hoping you'd shoot him.
     
  3. skadistic

    skadistic Caomhanach

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    That is a pimp flag.
     
  4. downtown

    downtown Crafternoon Delight

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    I'm sure having a white-dominated regime in a nation full of black people didn't have anything to do with giving a guy like Mugabe support....
     
  5. Damnyankee

    Damnyankee Honest Abe

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    No, of course not. ;)
     
  6. Norseone

    Norseone Emperor

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    Sorry...not even he made Mugabe seem balanced.
     
  7. Cannae

    Cannae Philosophy of Poverty

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    Like I said you reap what you sow.
     
  8. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    And in Mugabeland, there's no reaping or sowing. :lol:
     
  9. Godwynn

    Godwynn March to the Sea

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    Bwahahahaha!

    Somehow I bet that will be blamed on the white man.
     
  10. Cannae

    Cannae Philosophy of Poverty

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    Let me put it this way. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink the water. You can't force a nation or person to believe in somthing. You should let them to come to like your ideas without it being imposed on them.
     
  11. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    When did you turn into Mr. Laissez-Faire? :crazyeye:
     
  12. Damnyankee

    Damnyankee Honest Abe

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    SOB stole my line from the other thread!!!:mad: ...:p
     
  13. Swiss_Mercenari

    Swiss_Mercenari Comedic Jihadist

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    Honorably? You kiddin us? :crazyeye:
    Well, since he was white he was obviously hated by the nation's people and they said that he was leading it poorly because they were racists.
     
  14. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    My God, could you even find the country on a map?
     
  15. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    A man 50 years after his time.
     
  16. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    88 is a ripe old age for someone with AIDS
     
  17. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    And just who would you have placed at Rhodesia's helm?
     
  18. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    It's quite clear it wasn't ready for independence.
     
  19. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    Dude, Moe Howard was still alive back then! Wouldn't it be cool if he ran a nation?
     
  20. amadeus

    amadeus Arm is normal. I am not.

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    Actually, Rhodesia had self-rule dating back to the 20s.

    You have to distinguish the settler states from the colonial states. Nigeria was a colonial state; the few Britons that had moved there did so on the demand of their government, or on behalf of a private firm that was paying them for their brief time in the country.

    Rhodesia, on the other hand, was a settler state; people were migrating there, they made it their home. It wasn't just going there for the convenience of a earning a few pounds and jetting back to Britain. French Algeria was the same way; over a million white French nationals lived in Algeria.
     

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