A question about Moscow

[Omega124]

I was playing the mod for a while when something hit me. If we're only going to have Moscow playable, then why don't we just call it Russia? I know its not that accurate, but if Novograd and the other Russian powers are just indys, then whats the point of just calling it Moscow?

 

[civ_king]

I was playing the mod for a while when something hit me. If we're only going to have Moscow playable, then why don't we just call it Russia? I know its not that accurate, but if Novograd and the other Russian powers are just indys, then whats the point of just calling it Moscow?

Kiev is also playable

 

[Duke of Awesome]

Kiev would represent the Ukraine wouldnt it?

 

[Morholt]

Ukrainian did not become a national identity until much later, the first Russian kingdom was centered on Kiev.

 

[merijn_v1]

You are right. But Duke of Awesome made a mistake. Kiev doesn't represent Ukraine, but the Kievan Rus. That is the same civ as you mentioned in your post.

 

[antostor]

We have dynamic country names, don't we? Kiev Rus can be called "Ruthenia" in a later age, while Moscow Rus can be called "Russia".

 

[Agent327]

Ruthenia?

You are right. But Duke of Awesome made a mistake. Kiev doesn't represent Ukraine, but the Kievan Rus. That is the same civ as you mentioned in your post.

Hmmm. Ukrainians might disagree. AFAIK Ukraine claims the so-called Kiev Rus as its predecessor, just as Russia does. And as usual both claims have some pros and cons...

 

[fdgsgds]

Well look what Kievan Rus' controlled. It's much of European Russia.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Kievan_Rus_en.jpg

 

[micbic]

Just cause they were actually a semi-nomad state at their early years, and when the later years came Mongols came as well

 

[embryodead]

Ruthenia?

Ruthenia is more of a geographical term, the state was called Galicia-Volhynia/Halych-Volhynia and would be a good name for resurrected Kievan Rus, although short name Ruthenia isn't that bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia-Volhynia