Abortion: who should have the final say?
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Phantom Lord
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IMHO the woman should have the final word, unless the parents are married (to each other, to be precise), in which case both should agree.
The reason is easy, the woman runs all risks of pregnancy, birth and raising the child (unless she's married with the father).
The reason is easy, the woman runs all risks of pregnancy, birth and raising the child (unless she's married with the father).
nihilistic
Intergalatic Delivery Boy
The woman. Or the doctor.
BTW, WTH is a "state-appointed" person doing here anyway?
BTW, WTH is a "state-appointed" person doing here anyway?
Hayek
Old Whig
The mother and the father must agree if they are married or live-in partners. Although the woman carries the child and all, it's a big thing for the father as well.
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The woman, of course (within the first 3 moths at least).
But the question is not who has final say, but who is responsible. That should be the more rigid part of society who still persecutes single mothers.
But the question is not who has final say, but who is responsible. That should be the more rigid part of society who still persecutes single mothers.
funxus
Orange Cycloptic Blob
I think the father should at least have a say, and preferably he should agree, but however it's done, the woman must have the final word.
cgannon64
BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!
I am against abortion, but if the laws exist, they should require both parents have a say. The only exception to this would be if the father ran away at birth, and he obviously doesn't care about the fate of the child either way.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Well, the woman, although the doctor should have procedural control.
I do, however, have some sympathy with the idea of demanding parental consent for abortions for minors.
I do, however, have some sympathy with the idea of demanding parental consent for abortions for minors.
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
The woman and the father must agree (assuming that means the father of the child, not the father of the woman).
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phoenix_night
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The woman, of course.
(Assuming abortion is accepted) It's the woman who gives birth, and nobody should be forced to do that.
(Assuming abortion is accepted) It's the woman who gives birth, and nobody should be forced to do that.
newfangle
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The woman alone. The mother's right to exist will always supercede that of a "potential" human being.
Phantom Lord
live by the sword
I'm not feminist, but let's say a married woman gets pregnant by another man by "accident"? Pretty bad situation for everyone involved ... in which IMHO the woman should have the last word.Originally posted by Hitro
The woman and the father must agree (assuming that means the father of the child, not the father of the woman).
Now feel free to attack me, Feminists!
Smaasnekje
Should be medicated...
Both parents yes
omichyron
Highly-Pixelated Globe
both if they're married. the woman if they're not
If the father is still part of the woman's and child's life, they should at least have some kind of say in the matter. Reminds me of that thread that had a lilttle mention of some discrimination against males. This could be one of them.
Of course, if the mother's life is in danger, then she can just say "get it out" and save herself.
I find it amazing that when a woman goes after child support it's "Well, it's also your child too!" but when it comes to abortion "It's my decision alone!"
Of course, if the mother's life is in danger, then she can just say "get it out" and save herself.
I find it amazing that when a woman goes after child support it's "Well, it's also your child too!" but when it comes to abortion "It's my decision alone!"
Hitro
Feistus Raclettus
The way you word it there wouldn't be any question, as it would be a "pretty bad situation for everyone involved". Why should the father (the other man) object against it then.
But if he would that would contradict your assumption that the birth of the child would be a pretty bad situation for him (as someone quite involved
). At least it would be far better than getting his (potential) child killed in his opinion, otherwise he would not object.And I do think he has the right to see his child live, although in my view that would mean he would have to take the sole responsibility for it. I do think that no woman (or man for that matter) should be forced to care for a child, to be a parent in that sense, but when it comes to the pregnancy itself it happens to be so that it is the woman which has to deliver it. The man simply can't take that from her, no matter how much he wants it. And to me that doesn't justify taking his child, should he believe that was murder (or just want to have one). I do think his right to have his child be born exceeds that of the woman.
omichyron
Highly-Pixelated Globe
this isn't really a matter of descrimination against males. the woman is the one who has to carry the kid.....
anyway, I think if they're married it definately needs to be a joint decision.
Shadylookin
master debater
both they both accepted the possibility of a child when they had sex, so they both should get a say.
Like what Shadylookin said. A woman can't get pregnant by herself.....well, not yet.
But I guarantee if men had to carry the child, there would still be some of these ultra-feminists demanding a say.
Perhaps something like this, only if the father is still in the lives of the mother and child, could bring more equality here and decrease the mother being the only one to decide whether to dump the kid or have it and attack the father for money.
But I guarantee if men had to carry the child, there would still be some of these ultra-feminists demanding a say.
Perhaps something like this, only if the father is still in the lives of the mother and child, could bring more equality here and decrease the mother being the only one to decide whether to dump the kid or have it and attack the father for money.
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