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[R&F] Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi - retain or retire?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by lindsay40k, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. lindsay40k

    lindsay40k Chieftain

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    +20 local healing versus +5 global healing. They’re both pretty sweet. Do either or both of them stack with Medic / Supply Convoy?
     
  2. iammaxhailme

    iammaxhailme Chieftain

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    I usually pass on him tbh.
     
  3. The googles do nothing

    The googles do nothing Chieftain

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    I like to get him and use him locally if i'm war mongering. I never though of combining him and medic, that's a good idea if it works.
     
  4. jddods

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    Unless I'm warmongering I pass. Tend to go for gobal.
     
  5. Karmah

    Karmah Chieftain Supporter

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    I let circumstances dictate. But I will always retire him at some point.
    Yet at the time I get him, there might still be a difficult city to take, mandatory start of an invasion, usually because of terrain +early game relative power of AI army might not be in my favor, then I'd use that guy until this roadblock is removed.
     
  6. WillowBrook

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    I've never kept him long enough to stack with a medic or convoy - but I don't usually do much later-game warring, either. Typically, I'll keep him around for any conflict I'm in when I get him, then retire him when he'll likely give me a helpful boost.

    I'll have to keep a possibly pairing in mind if I think I might do much fighting later. Thanks for the idea.
     
  7. criZp

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    He counts as a medic (I just checked the modifier in the files) and medics don't stack, so it should not be possible to stack his 20 HP healing with a medic's.
     
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  8. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    I usually just keep him until I am done with wars.

    I haven't actually built a medic since Vanilla,so not sure how that goes.
     
  9. Halcyan2

    Halcyan2 Chieftain

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    He's great. My favorite early game scientist.

    Hypatia, Newton, and Galileo are nice but you can live without them. In fact, in most of the games I get them, I often don't even use them.

    Hildegaard is nice in theory, but doesn't really have much of an impact.

    Abu Al Qasim has a powerful passive ability, especially at that point in the game (well before the Medic). He can really turn the tide in a lot of warfare. I usually just keep him around (instead of ever triggering his global effect).

    I mean, if I were to only get a single Great Scientist in the wole game, Iwould definitely choose Abu Al Qasim!
     
  10. lindsay40k

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    Excellent intel, thanks! I kind of suspected he was effectively an early Medic.

    Do we know how his global +5 on retirement interacts with Medics? +25HP heals wouldn’t be too shabby, especially in a Thermopylae situation.
     

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