Africans 'under siege' in Moscow

The BBC report dosen't have half the jokes on his campaign. He dosen't say that he will Work like a negro, instead he says like here http://www.all-news.net/?id=44950

«с утра до ночи пахать как негр ради благополучия жителей района»

Meaning: From morning till night I will plow like negro for the helpfullness of the residents of the region.

«Если россияне привыкли называть чернокожих „неграми“, то пусть так оно и будет. Я не обижаюсь, потому, как мы должны гордиться тем, кто мы есть»

If Russians are used to calling blackskins negroes, well let that be. I am not hurt, becuase, how we supposed to be ashamed of, who we are.

Here he is inspired by Obama:
«Мне нравится Обама как человек и как политик, потому что он смог сделать то, что большинству казалось невозможным. Я думаю, что могу чему-нибудь у него научиться»

I like Obama like a human and like a politician, becuase what he is able to do, what was considered by most to be impossible. I think that I can learn something from him

Но кроме этого он сталкивается с незавидной реальностью чернокожего в России, стране с прочно укоренившимися расовыми предубеждениями.

Not a quote, but the article admits that the Russian Obama is achieving in an unfavourable reality with blacks in Russia, a country with longstanding racism. Now a quote from the Ludmila of Mosocw who works in the Moscow Proestant Church, an organization that works wtih Africans, «Над ними часто насмехаются и издеваются в метро или на рынках»
- On there are times when they are laughed at or made fun on in the metro and on the produce market.
The article continues to describe his life, he finished university in Vologradski region, and returne to thank all the people who helped him as well as help make his native region a better place, where in some steerts goats roam freely and after rain the water brings a mess to the streets. He married a local woman. They live in a 20 hectare area where their 20 employees grow watermelons to sell on the main procduce market in town.
Many of his neighbors do not feel like he is working hard enough.
«Он не вырос среди нас и не пережил с нами все наши проблемы; он не колхозник» - He did not grow up here and did not live with us and our problems, he is not a collective farmer (this attitude I disagree with, I hate people discouraging rural work, it is not ideal when thousands of chinese are needed to work in the rural farms)

Another of his neighbours -
« Если мне понадобится помощь при строительстве дома, он не сможет помочь мне получить нужные разрешения и документы, потому что сам никогда не проходил через это».

If I needed help before I constructed my house, he could not help me get necessary permission and documents, because he himself has never went through his process.

Yet meaning townspeople admire his courage. Even people who did not know his policies though he was a good person.

Other people consider him naive faithfully. Local department store clerk said that she would not vote for him becuase she did now want to "Live in Africa". Another said that he will not vote for blacks.

Finally someone says "I admire our people and have faith in our system and country, but the problems we have cannot be changed by one man"

Another says "..... I like idealistic people"

Another article though claims that many in the region believe his victory to be impossible.

So this is just some statements from the russian media about the Russian Obama and their thoughts on him.


:edit: As per Red Elk's suggestion
 
«Если россияне привыкли называть чернокожих „неграми“, то пусть так оно и будет. Я не обижаюсь, потому, как мы должны гордиться тем, кто мы есть»

If Russians are used to calling blackskins nigers, well let that be. I am not hurt, becuase, how we supposed to be ashamed of, who we are.
The correct translation of word "негр" is "black" or "negro". Not "n****".
 
You spelt the n word wrong.
 
It is being slightly racist - it would be like saying 'I'll run like a Jew in the race'
I am not sure because we do not have such saying in Russian, so it is hard to guess for me. The expression "to work like negro" in Russia is actually a tribute to African slavery in USA - during Soviet times all children read different books about how evil white capitalists oppressed Afro-Americans. So the saying itself is positive, there is no hidden offence. And in Russia this slogan does not sounds racist - nor in a sense white better than black, nor black better than white.
 
We should make some thread about such expressions. Its normal part of talk, nobody cant make up from it racism because it isnt.
 
Look, I dont really care if any of you cuss, but there is one word I can not stand, and Tekee, you just crossed the line. Maybe in Russia people use that word but never say that again in this forum. It is very offensive and rude. Also Red Elk please do not quote someone who typed that word.
 
Look, I dont really care if any of you cuss, but there is one word I can not stand, and Tekee, you just crossed the line. Maybe in Russia people use that word but never say that again in this forum. It is very offensive and rude. Also Red Elk please do not quote someone who typed that word.

Ok, didn't mind to offend you or anybody else.
Tekee gave example of Russian equivalent of this word in previous page, pretending that it's very common in Russia. It is not true.
 
Look, I dont really care if any of you cuss, but there is one word I can not stand, and Tekee, you just crossed the line. Maybe in Russia people use that word but never say that again in this forum. It is very offensive and rude. Also Red Elk please do not quote someone who typed that word.

If you can't stand that word than you sure have an odd musical taste. That guy in your signature, Mr Tupac, used to say it about 4 times out of every 5 words he pronounced. Now explain why is it OK for a wannabe "gangsta" but not for Tekee.
 
If you can't stand that word than you sure have an odd musical taste. That guy in your signature, Mr Tupac, used to say it about 4 times out of every 5 words he pronounced. Now explain why is it OK for a wannabe "gangsta" but not for Tekee.

As I ignore your exaggeration let me inform you that this racist Russian, is not Black. Tupac, as you guessed, is black. That word is one of few sounds that should never come out of a White, Asian or Mexican's mouth. You should know the dark history behind that word.

Also, Tekee used the word to describe a person of black descent in a discriminating way. Tupac and Biggie use the word as a synonym for homie or bro if you will.
 
As I ignore your exaggeration let me inform you that this racist Russian, is not Black. Tupac, as you guessed, is black. That word is one of few sounds that should never come out of a White, Asian or Mexican's mouth. You should know the dark history behind that word.

Also, Tekee used the word to describe a person of black descent in a discriminating way. Tupac and Biggie use the word as a synonym for homie or bro if you will.

It is racist to accept a word when it is pronounced by people of some races but not by people of other races. You stated that you "couldn't stand that word", but at the same time you seem to admire a bunch of people who repeat it excessively.

If the word is so offensive nobody should use it. It is not acceptable to have different rules for different races. I am not defending Tekee, I think what he is saying is pretty offensive, but I find your attitude contradictory.

BTW, your division of the "races" in "White, Asian and Mexican" betrays a not exactly sophisticated understanding of the issue.
 
Im sorry that your jealous you turned out Russian instead of African.

Answer luiz please. So far you are talking logical nonesense that is close to racism. Obviously, some of us are waiting for you to explain yourself.
 
As I ignore your exaggeration let me inform you that this racist Russian, is not Black. Tupac, as you guessed, is black. That word is one of few sounds that should never come out of a White, Asian or Mexican's mouth. You should know the dark history behind that word.

Also, Tekee used the word to describe a person of black descent in a discriminating way. Tupac and Biggie use the word as a synonym for homie or bro if you will.

please tell me you're black.
 
Answer luiz please. So far you are talking logical nonesense that is close to racism. Obviously, some of us are waiting for you to explain yourself.

I think this thread is turning over a lot of rocks and finding some ugly creatures under them. Please, Gelion, tell me all Russians don't think like this.:(
 
I think this thread is turning over a lot of rocks and finding some ugly creatures under them. Please, Gelion, tell me all Russians don't think like this.:(

Jessie, I sort of suspect some of the Russian posters here genuinely don't mean some of these terms in a racists way - think how calling someone with an epicanthic fold "oriental" has no negative connotation here but does in the US...


Plus to be honest I cant really work out what they are sahying anyway
 
Jessie, I sort of suspect some of the Russian posters here genuinely don't mean some of these terms in a racists way - think how calling someone with an epicanthic fold "oriental" has no negative connotation here but does in the US...
Plus to be honest I cant really work out what they are sahying anyway
- Tekee used word "Niger" but meant not a country but a word which usually used to offend black people and spells little different
- Slim_Shady objected and said Tekee should not use it
- luiz objected that this word is used a lot by favourite Slim_Shady's rapper named Tupac Shakur (who is black), and wondered why this word is racist then
- Slim_Shady countered saying this word can be used by blacks as synonim to "homie" or "bro" (well it is somewhat true as anyone who played GTA San Andreas knows)
- luiz being a fanatish liberal democrat said the word should be either racist or not FOR EVERYONE! - and by that luiz entered shaky grounds which allow other users to launch forum posting attacks against him in order to win over him virtually by forum means.

AND SO THE WAR CONTINUED...
 
I think this thread is turning over a lot of rocks and finding some ugly creatures under them. Please, Gelion, tell me all Russians don't think like this.:(
The only one who are racist here is Tekee. And luiz did not play GTA San Andreas, so he does not understand who may use some english words and who may not.
 
I think this thread is turning over a lot of rocks and finding some ugly creatures under them. Please, Gelion, tell me all Russians don't think like this.:(

I can't really work out what you are saying too :confused:
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